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Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by tbrownaw on Monday September 05, 2016 @07:32PM (#12432787)
And whether the associated videos are or aren't watched has no effect on that. Watching them causes no additional harm.
Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by crottypeter on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @06:00AM (#12434737)
Are you saying that if you were abused in the 80s, you would be fine with people watching footage of it today for kicks?
Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by throwanem on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @06:09AM (#12434786)
I think that's unduly reductive. He seems instead to be saying that if you were abused in the 80s, you should just get over the thought of people watching footage of it today for kicks.

Which is an interesting viewpoint, to be sure. I wonder whether he'd say the same to an adult victim of rape whose abuse was videoed and passed around for other people to get off on. That's a pretty close parallel, but it never seems to turn up in discussions like these, and I wonder why that is.

Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by tbrownaw on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @02:45PM (#12438282)
It seems to me that distributing such videos would have far more in common with defamation than with the original abuse. Merely having or watching them... is probably bad and wrong but not something that ought to actually be legally punishable.
Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by Nursie on Monday September 05, 2016 @07:58PM (#12432896)
That's callous and fairly nonsensical. We don't say to women who are targeted for 'revenge porn' that they should just live with it.
Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by Hondor on Monday September 05, 2016 @09:24PM (#12433142)
Those women are personally identified so they can suffer real world embarrassment from people they know. Children in child porn are probably far more anonymous and untraceable as adults just from their images.

I think the idea of being imprisoned for viewing a picture on a website is pretty draconian. We would never stand for it if we weren't so obsessed with vilifying sexual deviants.

The argument that consumers fuel the market for producers to abuse children surely fails when there's no payment being made. Perhaps the crime should be limited to paying for it, a bit like why we don't allow payment for organ donation.

Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by throwanem on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @07:57AM (#12435276)
> The argument that consumers fuel the market for producers to abuse children surely fails when there's no payment being made.

Does it? In warez rings, new releases are the surest route to high reputation and broad access to content. I don't see an a priori reason why the same might not be true for other sorts of illicit content, including this.

Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by nv-vn on Monday September 05, 2016 @08:41PM (#12433018)
Yes, but we also don't consider it a crime to view said revenge porn.
Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by Ntrails on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @04:25AM (#12434395)
Jennifer Lawrence declared that everyone who looked at the leaked nudes of her was committing sexual assault against her (or words to that effect). The idea being that by knowingly viewing "private" content without consent is invasive.

I'm not sure you can legislate it, but I found her position far more satisfying than "oh no I should never have taken the pics in the first place what a mistake to think I wouldn't be hacked".

Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @06:17AM (#12434830)
"we", what's your scope there.

Most people would consider it a moral wrong I'd warrant. It's like not a crime only by virtue of being a relatively new thing, and other mitigations like it being difficult to police (is there a point in making crimes you don't police and can't prosecute under).

Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by kahrkunne on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @04:12AM (#12434353)
Revenge porn will to me always be a copyright issue, and being one, it's up to those women (and men) to sue when they find someone violating their copyright.
Re:FBI’s Deep Web Child Porn Ring Questions Role of Gov’t in... by Hondor on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @06:58AM (#12435026)
Half the time the copyright will belong to the abusive ex partner who photographed them. You don't own your own image.