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Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by mrweasel on Saturday September 03, 2016 @12:07PM (#12419688)
One solution I've heard proposed is taxing revenue. If a business, like Apple, Starbucks or Amazon sells something in a country, they pay a percentage of the revenue, not the profit.

It would be a very drastic change, and may items would need to have their prices adjusted, as low profit items could be a problem.

The clever bit is that tax heavens are not longer possible, because it's not important where you move your profit to.

Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by pipio21 on Saturday September 03, 2016 @12:29PM (#12419799)
This is not a solution, and it is not clever but stupid.

If someone in power is so stupid to do it, companies will stop operating on their country but the world will continue going around and tax heavens will continue existing.

Governments are bankrupt totally now, expending way more that what they earn, with 5% deficits or more and want to raise more and more money in taxes, but there is a limit on what they could extract, as people can stop working if they become slaves.

Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by mrweasel on Saturday September 03, 2016 @01:12PM (#12419978)
I honestly don't believe that a country would stop having companies, or not have access to certain products because of such a tax. Remember your country would have no corporate income tax, it's the consumers of your product who are effectively paying the tax. Only companies not making a profit would take issues with such a scheme.

Take Q8, they own gas stations in Denmark. Apparently they've made no profit in Denmark, EVER. That is of cause a blatant lie. They've just moved the profit abroad. Taxing the revenue, directly at the pump, would either drive a lying company out and make room for more honest ones, or they would start paying their share.

There's ALWAYS someone who see an opportunity. Coca Cola leaving because they refuse to pay your tax? Fine Pepsi will swoop in that same day.

What you're suggestion is that companies will only ever operate in countries that makes it possible to be creative with taxes.

Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by hga on Saturday September 03, 2016 @02:23PM (#12420360)
If someone in power is so stupid to do it, companies will stop operating on their country

It depends, for we have a state level test of this, Washington State and Boeing, which has a very boom and bust pattern of profitability. Of course, political muscle was used on them when they last tried to expand outside of the state, but I'm sure that initially, when the gross receipts tax was imposed, it just cost too much for them to move their factories elsewhere.

Of course, this tax does nothing good for other companies that it hits (there's a lower threshold as I recall, otherwise few would ever start up a company in the state), that aren't so profitable.

Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by shkkmo on Saturday September 03, 2016 @01:24PM (#12420049)
Why would any business stop operating in a country when they can simply raise prices to cover the tax? Everyone else will have to raise prices as well so nobody would be at a competitive disadvantage.
Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by throwaway1974 on Saturday September 03, 2016 @01:57PM (#12420242)
Competition
Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by PieterH on Saturday September 03, 2016 @01:06PM (#12419954)
This is what a sales tax, like VAT, is.
Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by mrweasel on Saturday September 03, 2016 @01:22PM (#12420033)
VAT isn't a sales tax. But yes, it's moving the entire taxation of companies to the sales tax level.

The US already have sales taxes, at least in some places. The US generally, as is my understanding, doesn't have a VAT. VAT is a consumption tax, sales taxes are taxing the sellers purchase.

The differers is very subtle.

Re:Amazon and Starbucks pay less tax than sausage stall, say... by hga on Saturday September 03, 2016 @02:18PM (#12420336)
The US has sales taxes in most places, and there's a bewildering number of them, e.g. in my home town that I've retired to, I could be paying the state sales tax, I'm sure some states allow counties to do it, the city sales tax (and my city spans two counties), and a special tax for the shopping area, each of decreasing size.

There's also exemptions or lower rates for things like food, and even sales tax "holidays" when certain classes of items are free of sales tax for a few days. All of this complexity is one reason Internet companies don't want to collect it.

If we have a VAT, no one's told me about it (a general one, anyway)! The concept does get mooted every once in a while.