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Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by castratikron on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @10:13PM (#12395475)
Just wanted to say that the phrase "flight-proven" is genius marketing.
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by ChuckMcM on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @10:31PM (#12395562)
Better than "Certified Pre-Owned Rocket" :-) I agree with the folks who have tweeted they should start adding launch "check marks" to the paint but that assumes that they will launch it w/recovery and then do it again.
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by colechristensen on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @11:32PM (#12395827)
They'll definitely want to do extensive destructive testing on the first twice-used rocket if they can land it (or maybe put it in a museum and do that on the second)

There is a lot to learn about how the structure reacts to repeated launches (and undoubtedly engineering iterations to improve future models' reusability)

Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by Animats on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @01:55AM (#12396285)
The title of this article should have been "Used Rocket".
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by ChuckMcM on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @05:28PM (#12401636)
I think it would be funny if Gwen Shotwell put "Used Rocket Salesperson" on a business card.
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by paulvs on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @11:03PM (#12395710)
"Flight-proven" as opposed to those inferior non-flight-proven rockets we're so used to. In a few years, perhaps flying your cargo on an un-flight-proven rocket will be the risky option. I applaud SES for being the early adopters, and SpaceX for always pushing the boundaries.
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by rst on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @12:04AM (#12395941)
It'll take more than a few years for anyone other than SpaceX, and perhaps Blue Origin, to start recovering entire boosters -- it's a lot harder than you might think to retrofit on an existing rocket, and those two companies are the only ones to have designed rockets from scratch for it (though Blue is ... ahem ... a little while yet from even starting to actually build their orbital launcher).

Other launch providers are obviously watching, and the Indian space program, at least, is developing technology intended to feed into an eventual reusable design. But some of the others with announced plans still won't be trying to recover an intact stage, but only pieces, particularly the engines (detached in flight from the rest of the stage). That's the case both for Vulcan, the next-generation rocket from United Launch Alliance (the Pentagon's preferred provider), and for the Ariane-6 -- both of which won't initially launch with even that level of reuse, but only get it in follow-on work. (The reuse strategies for these are called SMART and Adeline, respectively, if you want to Google for them.)

Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by the_duke on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @02:23AM (#12396358)
Don't know if this comes from SpaceX or SES.

But Musk is definitely good at coming up with 'interesting' new terms.

See RUD - Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly (aka Crash).

Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by marvin on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @03:27AM (#12396546)
RUD has been a rocket engineering term for decades, same as e.g. lithobraking (slowing your spacecraft down by smashing it into the ground)
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by alphaBetaGamma on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @11:37AM (#12399070)
I also like the concept of "engine-rich exhaust" (also known as "the engine is melting").
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by the_duke on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @09:03AM (#12397963)
You can always learn something new on HN. ^^

I only ever read in articles about SpaceX.

Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by tehbeard on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @03:29AM (#12396560)
Pretty sure he nabbed that one from the KSP community.

Also its not so much a crash as the rocket falling apart.

Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by JshWright on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @09:27AM (#12398095)
The term is _much_ older than KSP (going back to at least the 70's)
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by shpx on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @12:26AM (#12396019)
I don't get the point, we know exactly what they're doing, so why do it?

I wish press releases didn't make me parse what they're really saying. I know "marketing" works, but if I was a satellite company, I would expect my audience to be smarter than that.

Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by oconnor663 on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @12:52AM (#12396115)
I think there are a lot of stories about companies that go "why do we need all this fake marketing crap anyway" and then proceed to lose a bunch of money :)
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by varjag on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @02:50AM (#12396422)
The same reason we get everything priced a cent short of dollar, despite everyone being aware of the trick.
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by glaberficken on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @07:31AM (#12397488)
off topic:

I wonder what the "real" cost of this is across the world? You know, things like minting cent coins and transporting them around, and other things I wouldn't even imagine!

Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by PDoyle on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @07:59AM (#12397599)
In Canada? No cost at all.
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by dansze on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @10:31AM (#12398562)
Actually, that's an interesting question: How much more efficient transportation-wise is ending prices in .95 and transporting nickels?
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by glaberficken on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @11:24AM (#12398987)
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by tempestn on Wednesday August 31, 2016 @04:35AM (#12396836)
I came here to say exactly the same thing. You know exactly what it means when you read it, but you still can't help but appreciate it.
Re:SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falco... by drdeadringer on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @11:47PM (#12395891)
Doesn't the US defense industry use this phrase as well, even if in PR over marketing?