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Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by shaqbert on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @08:54AM (#12389545)
"A company’s profits should be taxed in the country where the value is created."

"In Apple’s case, nearly all of our research and development takes place in California, so the vast majority of our profits are taxed in the United States."

And yet the value creation seems to be happening mostly in tax havens... and NOT in the US. Nice try, Timmy.

Be a sport and put your money where your mouth is, and repatriate all that foreign stash cash to the US, and I am happy to side with you. Yet somehow, I believe this won't be on the menu anytime soon...

Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by pjc50 on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:13AM (#12389705)
> the vast majority of our profits are taxed in the United States.

That's not even true! As you say, they keep their profits offshore to avoid US taxes: http://uk.businessinsider.com/apple-taxes-offshore-ireland-e...

Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by sjwright on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:55AM (#12390111)
> That's not even true!

That's a graph of cash reserves, not revenues. It's highly likely that Apple spends most of the revenue it accrues in the Unites States. You know, on expensive shit like Apple Campus 2.

Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by pjc50 on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @10:27AM (#12390448)
The slope of the graph is effectively a lower bound on profit-not-returned-to-shareholders. Spending it would make it no longer count as profit. $200bn buys you a lot of HQ buildings. It would probably buy you all the HQ buildings in SF.
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by celticninja on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @08:59AM (#12389590)
The EU have even said the bill could be reduced if further US taxes are paid.
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by andy_ppp on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:03AM (#12389628)
They won't do it until Hillary gets in and reduces the rate of repatriations which Apple has been lobbying for for a long time...
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by josho on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:39AM (#12389958)
I've read this theme several times. What has she done to lead you to make this conclusion? Or is this no more than your own bias and fear?
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by andy_ppp on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @10:12AM (#12390308)
Yeah, I read it. Which is how I know about it. It's not at all an unreasonable suggestion.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/tim-cook-addresses-apples-us-...

"Cook added that it was up to Congress and the president to enact tax reform, which he is "optimistic" will take place sometime next year."

I am actually both scared and biased, you got me!

Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by josho on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @03:23PM (#12393090)
It's entirely reasonable to assume that with this much money at stake Apple will pull all the stops for a tax holiday.

What I was wondering was if any politician had spoken publicly on this issue. It seems, unsurprisingly, they haven't.

Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by the-dude on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @10:01AM (#12390177)
Temporary 'tax holidays' have happened before. Sorry, no links atm.
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by garrettheaver on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:04AM (#12389633)
Which tax haven(s) are you referring to there?
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by madeofpalk on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:07AM (#12389667)
I'm guessing the one where Apple had an effective tax rate of 0.005%
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by wavefunction on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:30AM (#12389865)
That would be Ireland where Apple paid taxes at an effective rate of 0.005%, just to be explicit.
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by garrettheaver on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @04:23PM (#12393541)
So trying to classify Ireland a tax haven isn't correct. It might be popular amongst certain political classes and media in the US to do so but it doesn't stack up. Ireland has a flat corporation tax rate of 12.5%. Many other EU countries have rates which can, and often do, end up even lower. Look at France for example where the tax rate drops down to an effective 8% for many of the CAC40 companies (according to the OECD).

The 0.005% rate is NOT the corporate tax rate Ireland charged Apple, its the rate Apple managed wrangle on all their European wide profits by arranging their corporate structures to take advantage of various loopholes in several countries, not just in Ireland. This was perfectly legal under Irish, EU and importantly, US law at the time. Now the EU wants to effectively rewrite history and even the US agrees with Irelands position on this.

Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by twoodfin on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:22AM (#12389783)
What are the numerator and denominator of that figure?
Re:A Message to the Apple Community in Europe by themihai on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @09:06AM (#12389661)
Tim would pay tax in the US only if it gets a sweetheart deal of 0.0005%