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Re:Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers by tbihl on Sunday August 07, 2016 @05:03PM (#12243646)
I had probably about the same Thinkpad, and I was amazed at how much faster Windows 8.1 and 10 were. Granted, I was also making a huge upgrade because some tech-illiterate person bought us 32-bit Windows licenses and 4GB RAM (2.9 usable.)

I've much more often been frustrated by my phones. My last phone was at the point where I'd expect ~1 second delay for any interaction, whether that was opening an app or scrolling in a webpage. I think as the current one ages I'm going to start eliminating apps and wiping the phone more frequently than I do now, because I'd rather have all that money going toward my desktop and laptops.

Re:Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers by colejohnson66 on Sunday August 07, 2016 @08:41PM (#12244672)
> Granted, I was also making a huge upgrade because some tech-illiterate person bought us 32-bit Windows licenses and 4GB RAM (2.9 usable.)

A bit off topic topic, but is there any reason 32-bit Windows is still a thing? Every Intel processor I've seen since Atom failed is 64-bit.

Re:Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers by Sanddancer on Sunday August 07, 2016 @08:58PM (#12244748)
Devices like lower end tablets often have 2 gigs of ram and 32 gigs of flash, which would be problematic because a 64 bit version of Windows uses 3-4 gigabytes more disk space, which would be further amplified by needing that much more space for the recovery partition. These devices are useful, if limited purpose, so putting a 64 bit OS on it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Here's an Intel blog post from last year talking about it: https://blogs.intel.com/evangelists/2015/07/22/why-cheap-sys...

Re:Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers by colejohnson66 on Monday August 08, 2016 @09:58PM (#12252078)
So because tablet makers don't want to spend a few extra dollars on a dedicated flash chip for recovery, 32 bit is still a thing?
Re:Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers by hx87 on Sunday August 07, 2016 @10:48PM (#12245169)
Buying licenses and having 4GB of memory (and being disappointed about it) implies a desktop PC, and even a $80 refurb on eBay has at least an 80 GB hard drive.
Re:Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers by Dylan16807 on Monday August 08, 2016 @01:47AM (#12245711)
There wasn't much technical reason for 32-bit windows to be limited to 4GB in the first place, so I wouldn't try too hard to make sense of it all.
Re:Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers by colejohnson66 on Monday August 08, 2016 @09:57PM (#12252069)
I thought Windows 32 bit supports PAE?
Re:Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers by Dylan16807 on Monday August 08, 2016 @11:45PM (#12252483)
They do, and they use it to support the NX bit, but they artificially restrict memory to 4GB on everything except the most expensive server SKUs.