Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we often hate new stuff

Re:Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we ofte... by kartan on Monday July 25, 2016 @04:44PM (#12161493)

There is people that oppose GMOs business model.

"...Monsanto originally sold the soybeans to farmers under a limited use license that prohibited the farmer-buyer from using the seeds for more than a single season or from saving any seed produced from the crop for replanting..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowman_v._Monsanto_Co.

Global farming should not depend on patented seeds that can be made scarce as an economic strategy. It is, at least, extremely risky from an economic point of view. But it gets worse from a legal point of view.

I'm all for developing new ways of farming. But if patents are so bad for software, they can be worse if we allow to patent gens.

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Re:Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we ofte... by bduerst on Monday July 25, 2016 @05:13PM (#12161653)

Seed licensing is an agricultural practice that was adopted before GMO technology was available, and isn't unique to it either.

I'm all for a healthy skepticism of technology, but layman critics of GMOs routinely confuse standard industry practices (such as licensing and monocultures) with the GMO technology itself.

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Re:Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we ofte... by dredmorbius on Monday July 25, 2016 @07:38PM (#12162359)

When was it adopted? By whom? How widely was it practiced? Were any objections raised?

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Re:Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we ofte... by bduerst on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @03:48AM (#12163965)

Licensing? 1970's, farmers, quite widely because of the usefulness of new private hybrid species, none.

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Re:Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we ofte... by dredmorbius on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @08:46AM (#12165193)

Somehow I get the impression farmers weren't the ones who were pushing for seed licensing.

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Re:Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we ofte... by bduerst on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @12:32PM (#12166795)

They don't care, because of how useful the privately-owned and developed hybrids are. Layman such as yourself care more than they do.

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Re:Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we ofte... by dredmorbius on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @07:45PM (#12169580)

You're curiously evasive in answering questions. And curiously eager to pick personal battles.

Just sayin'.

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Re:Humans once opposed coffee and refrigeration: why we ofte... by heliumcraft on Monday July 25, 2016 @04:52PM (#12161541)

I agree with you, but have in mind that patents are not limited to GMOs and affect 95% of seeds in commercial use, including the "organic" ones.

There is a popular perception that only GMO seeds are patented but that's not the case.

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