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Re:Fujitsu Switches Horses for Post-K Supercomputer, Will Ri... by hangonhn on Friday July 01, 2016 @03:45PM (#12019129)
I don't get why people keep reporting this as ARM unseating x86 when in this specific case its ARM replacing SPARC. Is there a perspective I am missing?
Re:Fujitsu Switches Horses for Post-K Supercomputer, Will Ri... by trhway on Friday July 01, 2016 @04:41PM (#12019484)
interesting, to say the least, choice for Fujitsu, i mean they do have SPARC/RISC experience and given that the current top dog in the world is Alpha/RISC based https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway_TaihuLight , it seem strange to make such a huge bet on completely new architecture - Top500 has no ARM systems at least at the top of the list.

Beside big picture, there are such pesky details as "Fortran for ARM" HPC compiler. All these bearded and not so guys who walked Sun hallways for years ... The Intel HPC compilers also well established. What is available for ARM in that department?

Re:Fujitsu Switches Horses for Post-K Supercomputer, Will Ri... by beautifulpeople on Saturday July 02, 2016 @01:15PM (#12023144)
I think you're missing the big picture here. Looks like Cray has been looking at ARM for awhile for Fast Forward 2 (US DoE I think, announced 2014: http://investors.cray.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=98390&p=irol-newsA...). Looks like Barcelona Supercomputing Center also deployed ARM based test systems quite awhile ago (http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/barcelona-supercomputing-c..., http://gizmodo.com/5898633/can-an-arm-based-supercomputer-be...).
Re:Fujitsu Switches Horses for Post-K Supercomputer, Will Ri... by gnufx on Saturday July 02, 2016 @06:54PM (#12024084)
For what it's worth, there's current ARM propaganda [huge PDF!] at http://emit.tech/EMiT2016/Adeniyi-Jones-EMiT2016-Barcelona.p... (and incidentally something related to a more interesting sort of ARM-based system from the same meeting: http://emit.tech/EMiT2016/Navaridas-EMiT2016-Barcelona.pdf). That may not be terribly relevant to Fujitsu, though.
Re:Fujitsu Switches Horses for Post-K Supercomputer, Will Ri... by gnufx on Saturday July 02, 2016 @08:05AM (#12022195)
In what way is the Sunway Alpha-based? Dongarra says the ISA isn't.

This hardly looks "completely new" compared with Sunway, for instance, especially given work with it in Europe.

Fujitsu have their own compiler -- amongst their own essentially everything for K -- but GCC is "well-established" in HPC and you can see the Fortran-based HPC-type software in Fedora and Debian aarch64. (Yes, there's a lot more to it than that.)

Re:Fujitsu Switches Horses for Post-K Supercomputer, Will Ri... by timthorn on Saturday July 02, 2016 @12:49PM (#12023066)
Re:Fujitsu Switches Horses for Post-K Supercomputer, Will Ri... by gnufx on Saturday July 02, 2016 @07:10PM (#12024133)
I'd be surprised if that's relevant to Fujitsu, though.

I wonder how much better the library is than the free alternatives.

Re:Fujitsu Switches Horses for Post-K Supercomputer, Will Ri... by undersuit on Friday July 01, 2016 @04:36PM (#12019447)
The perspective you're missing is the x86 didn't replace SPARC in this case?