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Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by lisper on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @02:59PM (#12003818)
> What did they sell?

1.6% of their address space. For $200k. And they sold it all. That puts an implicit current valuation on the entire Urbit address space of $17M.

Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by bradleybuda on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @03:18PM (#12004001)
No it doesn't. The marginal price that people are willing to pay diminishes as the supply goes up. There may not be enough buyers in the world to saturate demand for the entire address space.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by lisper on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @03:38PM (#12004187)
"Implicit valuation" is not the same as the "actual value", it's just a calculation that is customary to make in situations like this whether or not the result has any bearing on reality. In fact, that was kind of my point: somehow, Curtis was able to get 500 people to buy a pig in a poke for $205. That in and of itself is an impressive accomplishment.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by dnautics on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @07:09PM (#12005497)
if the address space is fixed, though, then the marginal price that people are willing to pay increases as the suppli is eaten through.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by asgardiator on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @03:18PM (#12003998)
An explicit floor for the valuation, rather.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by maxerickson on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:13PM (#12004867)
It's not that either. It could be $0 tomorrow.

For a stupid example, say someone makes electricity stop working. But there's lots of things that could make it less valuable in the future than the value implied by the recent sale.

Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by nikolay on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @03:37PM (#12004177)
They sold at a (huge?) discount supposedly.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by hodwik2 on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @03:53PM (#12004292)
I believe they did indeed sell at a huge discount. Valuing all of Urbit at only 12m seems like a low ball.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by ForHackernews on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:03PM (#12004804)
I'd like to offer you the chance to buy one of my personal rock collection for $15m. As my rock collection contains only 5 rocks, this offer represents 1/5 of the total number available worldwide. This is a chance to get in on the ground floor of something big!
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by hodwik2 on Thursday June 30, 2016 @11:10PM (#12013653)
If you had spent a small amount of time and energy propping up the general sentiment that your rock collection was the next big thing, yet had bountiful positive results in the the rock hype cycle, and the rock hype cycle regularly paid out considerable profits on such investments, I would indeed consider buying one of your rocks had I the $15m.

People regularly spend millions on sculptures which are indeed just special rocks. The Guennol Lioness comes to mind.

Then, if you made the rock cost a negligible amount of money given the regular payouts on such ventures, I would really start considering it. Don't be a boob.

Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by dsl on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @04:52PM (#12004719)
Why? All they did was create a speculative market, not anything of any real value (i.e. I can't run compute workloads on it today).
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by elevensies on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:31PM (#12004985)
Because it sold out in 4 hours from their mailing-list-only announcement. So from a purely supply and demand perspective, it seems they could have gone higher.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by ModernMech on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:36PM (#12005011)
Or maybe just a little higher. Their mailing list is comprised of the people most likely to buy this sort of thing. Selling to the general public might not result in many more sales than the mailing list alone, especially considering that the purpose/use of Urbit is so opaque.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by elevensies on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @08:01PM (#12005745)
Quite possible. Personally my decision to buy was based on a desire to finance the development of an interesting new operating system and p2p network -- so I paid cash to a company that is doing that -- so the purpose was clear from that angle.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by AlexCoventry on Thursday June 30, 2016 @12:21AM (#12006543)
Is there a verifiable record of which real-world entities bought in? It would be nice to have a way to rule out the possibility that they sold it to themselves to create the perception of demand.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by nikolay on Thursday June 30, 2016 @04:29AM (#12007262)
In new schemes, you sell 10%, but claim you sold 100% in 4 hours so that you can start a new sale due to the "high demand" and try to really sell with fakely boosted "interested" abusing the greedy human nature.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by throwanem on Thursday June 30, 2016 @06:43AM (#12007664)
Based on the paucity of information I gather was collected in the purchase process, I doubt Tlön itself could produce such a record.
Re:Urbit Is Building a 'Virtual Galaxy' for Bitcoin Nodes by nikolay on Thursday June 30, 2016 @04:27AM (#12007254)
But you won't be able to resell at a profile based on their website. :D