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Re:New Cities by Kalium on Monday June 27, 2016 @07:49PM (#11990453)
Friend, I am aware of the "streetcar conspiracy". I am also aware that streetcars died out for reasons well beyond conspiracy. I am further aware of many areas where cars are very useful that never had streetcar systems to be destroyed by GM.
Re:New Cities by DorintheFlora on Monday June 27, 2016 @08:22PM (#11990596)
Sorry to have made assumptions. My understanding is that there was no pre-existing infrastructure suitable to cars. The dirt and cobblestone roads that existed were inadequate, to put it nicely. I have read up a good bit on such things and drawn a very different conclusion from you.

In the US, personally owned vehicles are critical for sprawling suburbs and rural life. It is a big country with low density. Cars should not be necessary in the big city. Those that are designed well make it possible to live without a car. In much of America, it is quite challenging to live without a car. This is partly due to choices we have made, not because it had to be that way.

Re:New Cities by eru on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @02:08AM (#11991790)
The cyclist lobbied for some 'proper' roads to be build at first. The cars found them very useful.
Re:New Cities by billbrown on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @02:51PM (#12003753)
Re:New Cities by eru on Friday July 01, 2016 @02:13AM (#12014171)
Thanks. Lots of automobile pioneers, like Henry Ford, were also very avid cyclists.
Re:New Cities by throwanem on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:25PM (#11995064)
Not for nothing, but did you ever hear anyone say that a stranger who calls you "friend" isn't one? If not, you have now.
Re:New Cities by Kalium on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @01:07PM (#11995463)
I sometimes use it as a polite stand-in for far less kind modes of address.
Re:New Cities by throwanem on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @01:09PM (#11995471)
Consider leaving it, and them, out altogether.