Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by chrisfosterelli on Monday June 27, 2016 @04:56PM
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That's how I got 6/6 as well. It's less about the actual words and more about if the poem was actually talking about anything coherent.
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by plaguuuuuu on Monday June 27, 2016 @10:57PM
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Also interesting to compare with less thematically structured work. Probably not the greatest example but what comes to my mind is some of The Mars Volta's lyrics; a lot of it is pretty abstract and stream-of-consciousness and it's hard to really pinpoint a narrative as such, compared to the example poems which were pretty straightforward
"Last night I heard lepers
flinch like birth defects
its musk was fecal in origin
as the words dribbled off of its chin
it said I'm lost
I'm lost
Now I'm lost
Dolls wreck the minced meat of pupils
cast in oblong arms length
the hooks have been picking their scabs
where wolves hide in the company of men
it said I'm lost
I'm lost"
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by mfoy_ on Monday June 27, 2016 @05:03PM
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All the computer poems were just rambling and rhyming and weren't really even trying to say anything. A lot of the time they phrased things VERY awkwardly too, to the point of being incomprehensible.
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by elorant on Monday June 27, 2016 @06:11PM
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Sounds like rap music :)
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by Scriptor on Monday June 27, 2016 @05:29PM
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Yep, the human poems would often refer back to an idea or word mentioned before. The computer poems read like something from a good markov generator.
Actually, you can kind of reverse engineer the algorithm behind Sonnet #2. It seems like they first pick a bunch of related words that rhyme (drawer, door, floors, apartment, wall) and then build up the line backwards. The problem is that even though the words are related, the actual lines don't form any single cohesive image.
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by SilasX on Monday June 27, 2016 @05:30PM
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>This is exactly how a computer algorithm would conflate drawer with drawers.
Because human poets never do wordplay like that?
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by gridspy on Monday June 27, 2016 @05:35PM
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Because when humans do, there is an obvious (sometimes less obvious, but present) reason to do so.
There is no such link made in this example between the usages.
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by SilasX on Monday June 27, 2016 @05:47PM
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You haven't read a lot of schoolkid poetry posted at public libraries, have you?
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by qu4z-2 on Monday June 27, 2016 @06:16PM
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That's what I found. All the "human" ones were easy, but then you had to play "machine or awful poet?" on the rest.
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by vacri on Monday June 27, 2016 @09:15PM
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I answered 'human' for drawer/drawers, because "surely an algorithm would be designed to avoid this kind of thing? surely it'd be better than that... must just be a bad poet"
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by hoke_t on Monday June 27, 2016 @10:36PM
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Are you implying that awful poets are in fact not human?
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by qu4z-2 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @05:13PM
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I believe I could make a solid argument for that. :P
But no, it's just that all the bad poets in the original article were machines in the end.
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by arcticfox on Monday June 27, 2016 @06:13PM
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I'm not sure that the majority of that really qualifies as poetry, at least not in a man vs. machine context.
Re:Human or Machine: Can You Tell Who Wrote These Poems?
by neosat on Monday June 27, 2016 @09:57PM
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I got this one wrong. I thought no way a computer would be so dumb to have drawer and then drawers in the next sentence and this was a trick question to get one to say machine. Guess I overestimated the algorithm !
I didn't even read that far. It was obvious by here:
SONNET #2
This is exactly how a computer algorithm would conflate drawer with drawers. There is no obvious theme to this verse, no high level construct.Every human poem in this example has a high level theme, which is non-obvious to a computer. None of the computer ones do.