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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by andrei_says_ on Sunday June 26, 2016 @03:13PM (#11982169)
I think you'll enjoy this lecture by linguistics professor George Lakoff: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9R9MtkpqM

Among other things he speaks of the think-tank-driven concerted effort to influence political support by using language invoking specific metaphors to frame important issues.

Like "Tax Relief" for dramatically reducing taxes for the rich etc.

Changed how I process political speech and pretty much any media-supported narrative.

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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by kerkeslager on Sunday June 26, 2016 @03:34PM (#11982276)
In the same vein, Orwell's Politics and the English Language[1] is an earlier observation of similar phenomena.

[1] https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by mathattack on Monday June 27, 2016 @07:49AM (#11985547)
I was just going to reference this. He was a master on the power of words, in both explaining it (as in your reference) and showing it in 1984 and Animal Farm.
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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by beefield on Sunday June 26, 2016 @03:49PM (#11982348)
I recommend also Lakoff's book "Don't think of an elephant"

I thought it is a good story how rethoric and framing is used nowadays in politics.

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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by ovt on Sunday June 26, 2016 @04:49PM (#11982634)
Lakoff and framing seemed to be in the air around 2003 or 2004, and it was a very good development.

And then everyone forgot it, or maybe were encouraged to forget it.

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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by igravious on Sunday June 26, 2016 @06:10PM (#11983023)
Thank you for this link. More and more I am appreciating this guy's research. Have never seen him speak, what a natural speaker, very enjoyable as well as edifying.
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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by cbHXBY1D on Sunday June 26, 2016 @08:25PM (#11983532)
Never meet your heroes. I was a big fan of his work before taking a class with him. He's the rockstar of the cogsci department at Berkeley but he's known as a massive ego and a poor professor.
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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by Dotnaught on Monday June 27, 2016 @12:19AM (#11984199)
I took one of Lakoff's classes in 1987 and found his work to be compelling. Metaphors We Live By should be required reading.

http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/M/bo3637992...

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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by ktRolster on Monday June 27, 2016 @02:17AM (#11984451)
He's the rockstar of the cogsci department at Berkeley but he's known as a massive ego and a poor professor.

I don't want to be harsh here, but it might be worth for you to consider that you were also a poor student.

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Re:Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook by cbHXBY1D on Sunday July 03, 2016 @07:55PM (#12028180)
Sure, it's a fair consideration. But before asking that question you should have just quickly googled some other student opinions.

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=246554

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