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A comment on “@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS/PCI/PCC/SD”. Parent comment

Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by 980120100 on Monday June 20, 2016 @06:38AM (#11937178)
How about all upstream authors demanding fees from Ubuntu? Ubuntu modifies upstream packages quite ruthlessly, often to the detriment of the users.
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Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by carc1n0gen on Monday June 20, 2016 @08:18AM (#11937478)
I'm no expert, but I assume there is no license agreement saying you must pay a fee to distribute modified versions of these upstream packages.
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Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by icebraining on Monday June 20, 2016 @08:22AM (#11937491)
Not sure about trademarks, but at least in copyright, the lack of a license doesn't mean you are free to use something; on the contrary, if there's no license, you can't use it at all.
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Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by jeroen on Monday June 20, 2016 @08:38AM (#11937546)
"no license agreement saying ..." does not imply "no license agreement".
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Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by icebraining on Monday June 20, 2016 @09:06AM (#11937704)
Fair enough. Are there licenses agreements covering these packages?
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Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by tankenmate on Monday June 20, 2016 @07:32AM (#11937328)
You are conflating copyright with trademarks.
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Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by icebraining on Monday June 20, 2016 @08:03AM (#11937427)
How so? Ubuntu uses the names of those programs in their packages, no?
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Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by tankenmate on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @05:29AM (#11952516)
As far as I am aware Ubuntu complies with all trademark requirements for upstream software that it packages (e.g. Firefox, and probably other 3rd party pre compiled software). For most F/OSS software they have no trademark requirements and/or registered trademarks. So in effect Ubuntu are doing the right thing (tm).
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Re:“@ubuntu asks us to bill you 1e-2e per month for each VPS... by 92187313921 on Monday June 20, 2016 @09:11AM (#11937730)
Sigh. Why is everyone so literal here. The question then is: If upstream authors are so generous not to trademark their works, and Ubuntu (attempts) to make money on their backs, why does Ubuntu not do the same for its derivative work?
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