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Re:Buffer Layoffs by dave2000 on Thursday June 16, 2016 @06:03PM (#11919222)
I think you're going to get perfectly good developers for $150,000. Are you going to get twice as good ones if you pay twice that, or just greedy ones? Have transparency and let someone else pay the darlings. You'll still get your work done.
Re:Buffer Layoffs by zenlikethat on Thursday June 16, 2016 @11:42PM (#11920574)
This exact "greed" rhetoric is what helps businesses keep dev salaries down. You don't get greedy people for that much, you get smart business people (they know their worth and charge for it).
Re:Buffer Layoffs by chrisabrams on Friday June 17, 2016 @12:21AM (#11920669)
I do not understand devs who justify low salaries this way.

Why make 50% of your potential?

Re:Buffer Layoffs by beatpanda on Friday June 17, 2016 @04:30AM (#11921302)
What do I have to sacrifice to earn 100% more money? There's a lot more money in doing harm than doing good, and I will gladly take less money to do good.
Re:Buffer Layoffs by zenlikethat on Friday June 17, 2016 @11:57AM (#11923390)
In this case, you maybe don't have to sacrifice much at all. There are plenty of good reasons to go work at a large software organization, e.g. stability, and most startups will work you harder for less tangible benefit.
Re:Buffer Layoffs by zenlikethat on Friday June 17, 2016 @01:26AM (#11920838)
Exactly. If you are just greedy then programming is not the right field. Much more reliable to make a boatload of cash through other means if that's all you care about.
Re:Buffer Layoffs by UK-AL on Friday June 17, 2016 @06:25AM (#11921754)
I think you're misunderstanding what he is saying.
Re:Buffer Layoffs by dave2000 on Friday June 17, 2016 @03:02AM (#11921080)
I'm not justifying low salaries; i'm saying that $155,000 is plenty.
Re:Buffer Layoffs by thedufer on Friday June 17, 2016 @09:17AM (#11922440)
"plenty" by what metric? It seems to be less than market rate (for good experienced developers). What other metric should we use?
Re:Buffer Layoffs by odbol_ on Friday June 17, 2016 @01:23PM (#11924022)
Some people may be willing to take less pay in order to have more control/freedom in a small startup, rather than just being a cog in the machine at Google or Microsoft.