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Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by specialp on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @03:13PM (#11911348)
There is also an effort to get these detectors in space with eLISA: http://physics.aps.org/articles/v9/63 This will be able to detect wave frequencies that would normally be drowned out by terrestrial sources.
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by mino on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @04:00PM (#11911733)
I recommend the two animations on the wiki page of eLISA, they are worth a thousands words to understand the (crazy!) orbit of this contraption:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_Laser_Interferometer_S...

Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by kilovoltaire on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @05:32PM (#11912310)
Wow, zero-drag satellites are a really elegant idea!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-drag_satellite

Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by stephengillie on Thursday June 16, 2016 @12:14AM (#11913942)
You must see umbrellas and parasols as elegant as well.

A precursor concept of a zero-drag satellite can be seen in Stargate SG1: "The Serpent's Venom", where an armed mine from an orbital minefield is brought aboard a shuttle, and the pilot must match the mine's trajectory changes.

Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by adrianN on Thursday June 16, 2016 @03:06AM (#11914516)
"The Drag-free Satellite", the paper referenced in the Wikpedia article is from 1964, slightly older than SG1.

Also, your comment would be much nicer without the first sentence. And if you think about it, umbrellas are pretty neat. The folding mechanism is nifty, if you ask me.

Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by nannal on Thursday June 16, 2016 @04:35AM (#11914790)
look at this idiot, he can find beauty in elegant mechanisms!
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by stephengillie on Sunday June 19, 2016 @02:41AM (#11932056)
It's so beautifully elegant to hold it aloft with your outstretched arm.
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by Terr_ on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @09:43PM (#11913432)
Wow, I didn't think it was possible to have three orbits that maintain an equilateral triangle like that. (I'm assuming the satellites only need to thrust against smaller influences like solar wind.)
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by macawfish on Thursday June 16, 2016 @01:39PM (#11917639)
If you like that orbit, look into the hopf fibration!
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by peter303 on Thursday June 16, 2016 @10:06AM (#11916173)
There is a current space experiment to measure the behavior of two elisa nodes. They are only a foot apart instead of a planned million kilometers. The purpose is a low cost in situ test of instruments. And also to survey the types of in situ instrumental and evironmental noise. It took decades to reduce LIGO noise to acceptable levels.
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by Grishnakh on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @05:27PM (#11912274)
They should build one on the Moon.
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by JonnieCache on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @06:57PM (#11912746)
One of the opening scenes from the transhuman adventure novel Diaspora by Greg Egan involves a robot on the moon tending a large laser interferometer which observes two inspiraling neutron stars. Perhaps my favourite book.
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by Falcon9 on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @07:06PM (#11912778)
Egan's Quarantine had me checking out dozens of books about Quantum Mechanics while I was in High School. Love Egan's work, even if I had quite a bit of trouble with Diaspora (I probably just need to give the audiobook a second listen).
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by OvidNaso on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @10:57PM (#11913623)
Love Diaspora, but it is really more of a philosophical thought experiment that drops you into two worlds rather than a novel with a plot. Half the book is geometry!
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by stevendhansen on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @09:54PM (#11913466)
One of my favorite books as well. Every time I've gotten to the ending (especially the part where they discover the massive sculpture through trillions of universes) my mind is blown and I end up sitting and thinking about it for hours.

I have a similar reaction to Egan's Permutation City when the couple living in the simulation adjust the clock rate so the computer running them only executes one clock tick every second, every day, every year, every million years, every billion years, every trillion years, etc. Puts me in a contemplative mood.

Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by mirimir on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @10:36PM (#11913566)
But bad things happen on Earth after they coalesce. But that was in our galaxy. I guess it's just that these detected events are much farther away. Right?
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by roywiggins on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @06:11PM (#11912544)
Moonquakes exist too... I'd naively expect a lot less noise in space, and you don't have to worry about moon dust gumming up the works. And you can just lob three satellites up one at a time and arrange them more or less as you like, rather than having to deal with intervening geography.
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by peter303 on Thursday June 16, 2016 @09:53AM (#11916071)
The Moon also has seismic waves, albeit less than Earth. seismic waves have similar waveforms and frquencies as gravitational events. However the delays between two detectors is much larger for seismic since they propagate 50,000 times slower than gravitational waves.
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by nerfhammer on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @03:41PM (#11911584)
terrestrial sources of gravitational waves?
Re:Second Gravitational Wave Detected at LIGO by infogulch on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @03:46PM (#11911626)
Terrestrial sources of run-of-the-mill vibrations. The detector can pick up both.