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Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by SEJeff on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @10:34AM (#11902241)
The US policy on first-use of nuclear weapons is quite clear. We will use them as an option against another country that is nuclear capable or has weapons of mass destruction (chemical or bio). As a US military war vet do I think we ever would unless faced with overwhelming military odds against us? Nope.

Obama has been doing all within his power (very little due to congress in-fighting) to try and reduce our nuclear stockpile as much as feasible. With 3 seawolf class nuclear missile submarines sneaking around somewhere in the ocean, it is unlikely that anyone no matter how advanced could prevent nuclear retaliation should they pre-empt the US.

That being said, the entire premise of this article is a bit silly, and coming from war is boring, I'm a bit surprised as their stuff is generally spot on. The thing about a full Carrier Strike Group is the blue water ability to project the US air power anywhere in the world. That is what keeps carriers relevant (for now). The new hypersonic glide vehicles might change the game certainly as there isn't really much of any defense against incoming warheads going Mach 10, but those are still a bit out tech-wise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use#United_States

Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by teh_klev on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @04:35PM (#11905122)
> The thing about a full Carrier Strike Group is the blue water ability to project the US air power anywhere in the world.

This is why we have carriers and carrier groups. So that we can arrive in your nautical back yard and say "Here we are!" and get noticed. It's all about the high visibility projection of power thousands of miles away.

This was one of the objections about the UK government building the Queen Elizabeth class carriers. You don't need carriers unless you're intending on using them to project your military might into places you're not wanted in a highly visible way.

Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by Quinner on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @11:30AM (#11902627)
Seawolf's are fast attack boats, the Ohio is the missile boomer class.
Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by SEJeff on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @01:22PM (#11903587)
Gah, you're right. Make that 18 Ohio class nuke subs.
Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by badloginagain on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @10:53AM (#11902354)
My takeaway from the article is that carrier vulnerability is increasing from low cost, high range missiles. As the article mentioned, they only need a few hits. Carriers are a big target, and from the sounds of it potential nation-state enemies have adopted anti-carrier naval doctrines based on small signature boats with high damage output.

Carriers seem to be highly effective in uncontested waters, allowing force projection anywhere in the world. The article is saying that carriers are becoming less relevant when contested by a prepared enemy.

Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by SEJeff on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @01:21PM (#11903574)
Right. The US Navy is solving the currently severe weakness from a swarm of fast attack suicide boats via the Railgun and Laser weapons programs. Trials of both are currently happening for our blue water ocean folks.

http://breakingdefense.com/2014/04/navys-magnetic-super-gun-...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/10/us-navy-test-...

That still leaves the vulnerability of the new class of hypersonic anti-ship weapons systems, but I suspect there is something to attempt to counter that as well. The X-51A Waverider and any future versions are a good example of that.

This is all cat and mouse, but I wouldn't be so quick to completely discredit a carrier strike group. Yes the Carrier is a HUGE liability, but the amount of firepower in 1 group is simply mind numbing and taking out the entire group before a sustained counter attack would be near impossible. For reference, the US Navy currently has 10 of these operating globally.

If you recall, during the opening war in Afghanistan, a CSG managed to launch 1 Tomahawk cruise missile every 12 seconds for 48 hours sustained during the opening salvo. That is only a single CSG.

Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by sitkack on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @01:25PM (#11903619)
Cheaper, smaller carriers could deploy many more UAVs with a larger operational range. Why are will still putting pilots in planes?
Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by toss1 on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @04:12PM (#11904971)
Because we need to anticipate conditions in which communications links and space assets (e.g., GPS and comms links) are unavailable.

UAVs do not yet have the autonomous intelligence to operate on their own, and even if they do, we haven't yet decided to give robots the decision to kill autonomously.

Answer 2 =) we already do, to some degree. E.g., Cruise Missiles have had the ability to navigate on inertial guidance and terrain-following technology for decades, and we use those a lot. But again, a cruise missile can only get programmed for one target, go there, and hit it.

A pilot can go to the target area, notice that the target has moved or new conditions exist (e.g., a bunch of children have been moved in as human shields), or notice that new targets of opportunity have popped up, and immediately take appropriate action.

And, we're back to the autonomous AI tech is not yet that good (and I'm not sure that we want it to get that good).

Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by SEJeff on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @05:04PM (#11905288)
Re: cruise missile targets, not quite for the targetting. A group of the Tomahawk Block IV missiles can be launched over a target area and loiter for some time with a list of pre-programmed targets or updated live from any other sensor platform (a jet, helo, satellite, etc). Say there are 20 targets and 25 missiles live loitering around an area. When the operator says to strike, 15 of the missiles can strike simultaneously while a few can stay aloft to provide BDA (battle damage assessment for non-military folk) and then go in for the 2 of the 1-2 punch.

The Block IV missiles can also share targets amongst eachother and decide which target to strike (among a list of programmed targets) themselves based on factors such as proximity and other classified bits.

http://gizmodo.com/this-tomahawk-is-a-mighty-morphin-cruise-...

https://defense-update.com/products/t/tomahawk.htm

Re:The U.S. Navy’s Big Mistake: Building Tons of Supercarriers by toss1 on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @08:23PM (#11906433)
Yes, they have these fantastic capabilities, and they are improving all the time.

That said, note that even your example included live updates via comms/satellite links...

Consider the scenario where comms and orbital assets are unavailable/unreliable.

We still need human pilots. We're working to the day when we won't, but, we're not there yet.

(BTW, I'm all for unmanned, and think the F35 is already obsolete, and that humans are the limiting performance factor in esp. fighter aircraft (e.g., limiting it to 10g accelerations, but we're just not there yet for all scenarios, to answer the GP question as to "why not")