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Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by lisivka on Monday June 13, 2016 @05:42PM (#11897943)
Optimize for taste, not for fast growth, please. I don't want to pay for lettuce with taste of straw.
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by dbyte on Monday June 13, 2016 @05:53PM (#11898026)
Yes, this is a must. I wonder if industrial greenhouses could benefit from some sort of induced day-night cycles and thermal gradients to cuddle the little plants. Maybe it will allow them to grow better and to develop a better taste. Once you have LEDs possibilities are many.
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by thatswrong0 on Monday June 13, 2016 @05:52PM (#11898025)
Last time I checked (it's been a while since I had a salad), lettuce already doesn't have too much of a taste. I'd be surprised if they managed to mess that up.
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by maxerickson on Monday June 13, 2016 @05:54PM (#11898035)
It really depends on the lettuce.

Iceburg seems to be intentionally useless. Romaine starts to have a little flavor. Leaf lettuces have a wide range of flavors.

Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by slyn on Monday June 13, 2016 @07:25PM (#11898593)
Iceberg is a texture, not a taste per se. Used in combination with other greens and veggies it has a place.
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by dekhn on Monday June 13, 2016 @10:19PM (#11899316)
Moving to California recalibrated my understanding of lettuce/salad greens. Not sure if you meant just lettuce, but in California a typical salad has little to no lettuce, and instead: mizuna, arugula, radicchio. What lettuce is does have is Romaine and butter lettuce, not iceberg.

The result is a very flavorful salad- intensely bitter with much less crunch.

Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by eonw on Monday June 13, 2016 @06:01PM (#11898087)
is that the outcome of nature or selective breeding?
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by imglorp on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @08:03AM (#11901426)
I'm not optimistic here. At scale, cost always wins. Look what Hershey did in the US to its brand also Cadbury when they licensed it: that pasty brown wax is just not appealing compared to the real thing.

http://sweets.seriouseats.com/2008/09/chocolate-cocoa-butter...

Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by rezistik on Monday June 13, 2016 @05:53PM (#11898031)
Taste is a really difficult thing to optimize for due to the subjective nature. There are certainly specific chemicals that appear in really tasty food that can be analyzed and used to guide the breeding process but it's incredibly complicated.

Optimizing for anecdotal data is one of the things I'm working on, it's amazing the depth you need in selecting specific traits to breed into plants.

Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by bluthru on Monday June 13, 2016 @08:10PM (#11898825)
>Taste is a really difficult thing to optimize for due to the subjective nature.

No one tastes locally grown produce and thinks, "this is OK, but I really prefer the flavor of the produce that's genetically engineered to not bruise as easily in shipping."

Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by rezistik on Monday June 13, 2016 @10:24PM (#11899345)
Well yeah absolutely, I'm saying it's a qualitative trait as opposed to yield per acre which is quantitative.
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by VeejayRampay on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @04:30AM (#11900609)
If you're going to for taste then maybe go for another salad than lettuce though :)
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by mullsork on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @05:36AM (#11900815)
Seems like you haven't tasted great lettuce! Try one grown in Finland, it'll blow your mind. I miss Finnish vegetables more than anything else!
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by VeejayRampay on Thursday June 16, 2016 @12:39PM (#11917229)
Or maybe I have and I can recognize that lettuce is one of the blandest greens around. Treviso, watercress, frisée, oak-leaf have way more taste and also offer better texture.
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by wtf_is_frp on Monday June 13, 2016 @07:39PM (#11898674)
Yeah dude, you should convince them to waste the opportunity to make billions.
Re:LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014) by ghostbrainalpha on Monday June 13, 2016 @07:49PM (#11898718)
You think billions is cool.... No, thousands is cool.