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Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by alexggordon on Sunday June 05, 2016 @09:21AM (#11840803)
I'm the one that downvoted you. Rather than simply insulting s3nnyy, pull out some numbers to justify your statement. I suspect s3nnyy is not hiding information, but rather saying the quality of life is worth it.

However, it looks like the numbers are pretty comparable. In Germany a software engineer will average 47,500[0] euros a year. judging by this answer[1] I'm guessing your take home is going to be about 28,000 euros (2,333 euros a month), meaning about a 40% tax rate.

According to the same website a software engineer in Zurich will make 96,500[2] CHF. Using a swiss salary calculator, your take home in euros is 71,436[3] (5,953 euros a month).

Finally, comparing the cost of living, is clear to see that Germany is 50% cheaper[4], but you're making 150% more in Zurich. While my numbers may be the wrong averages to compare, it looks like Zurich is at least pretty comparable.

[0] http://www.payscale.com/research/DE/Job=Software_Engineer/Sa...

[1] https://www.quora.com/Is-45000-euros-per-year-considered-a-g...

[2] http://www.payscale.com/research/CH/Job=Software_Engineer/Sa...

[3] http://www.lohncomputer.ch/en/home.html

[4] http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?coun...

Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by delroth on Sunday June 05, 2016 @10:55AM (#11841253)
One notable thing here is that even if the proportions are the same, in the end the absolute amount of money you are putting in your savings every month is higher. Or, in other words, if you're going in vacation in a less expensive country, your purchasing power is doubled.

96,500CHF is also a fairly conservative estimate. If you work at e.g. Google, you can reasonably expect twice that amount after 2-3 years working there (factoring in bonuses and stock). The tax rate is also lower compared to Germany, especially when you reach larger sums of money.

Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by alexggordon on Sunday June 05, 2016 @11:02AM (#11841309)
My only comment is that the proportions aren't actually the same :).

In Zurich you're netting three times what a German software engineer makes, but everything is only twice as expensive.

Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by kitsune_ on Sunday June 05, 2016 @11:14AM (#11841380)
The vast majority of software developers in Switzerland will never, ever make 190'000 CHF a year.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by s3nnyy on Sunday June 05, 2016 @09:30AM (#11840845)
I don't know what's wrong with lohncomputer.ch, but I get 400 CHF more in net-salary than what they calculate.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by alexggordon on Sunday June 05, 2016 @09:41AM (#11840902)
Yeah, I think I forgot to select Zurich as the Canton of residence. Either way though, that helps my case.