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Re:8-bit computer from scratch by bottled_poe on Saturday June 04, 2016 @10:21PM (#11839323)
Why stop there? From scratch should involve extracting the materials from the Earth.
Re:8-bit computer from scratch by Dylan16807 on Sunday June 05, 2016 @02:36AM (#11839913)
Because that's the point where you take things that don't compute, and make something that computes.
Re:8-bit computer from scratch by tmptmp on Sunday June 05, 2016 @03:27AM (#11840005)
>>Because that's the point where you take things that don't compute, and make something that computes.

Good point but I didn't get it quite right. What is your definition of "things that compute"? I am curious.

Re:8-bit computer from scratch by Dylan16807 on Sunday June 05, 2016 @04:21AM (#11840119)
A device that can use a mathematical process to figure something out.

A single transistor definitely doesn't compute. A single gate? Eh, not really.

A design with a couple latches and an adder that can perform SUBLEQ? Yeah that computes if you attach a ram.

A non-turing-complete pipeline of math functions? Yes, that computes, though why make that when it takes more gates than a microprocessor needs.

Re:8-bit computer from scratch by 13of40 on Saturday June 04, 2016 @11:55PM (#11839554)
You can make a razor blade diode or a pyrite diode, so I wonder if there's some way to make a make a transistor out of household junk...
Re:8-bit computer from scratch by mrob on Sunday June 05, 2016 @01:10AM (#11839718)
Jeri Ellsworth has built working transistors at home.

Point contact germanium BJT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmotkjMSKnI

Etched silicon FET: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdcKwOo7dmM

The rusty razorblade + pin point contact diode doesn't need anything special because it's a Schottky diode, with a metal/N-type semiconductor junction. If you probe lots of places you can find an N-type region where the dopant is random impurities. But the transistor needs both N and P-type regions, so I don't see any way to build one with common junk. Jeri's point contact example works by diffusing phosphorus from phosphor bronze into commercially produced N-type germanium using a high current to heat it. Phosphor bronze is arguably household junk but I don't think germanium diodes are.

Re:8-bit computer from scratch by ss248 on Saturday June 04, 2016 @11:43PM (#11839526)
I wouldn't mind actually. That toaster thing was interesting.