Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by dang on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @03:36PM
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We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11763281 and marked it off-topic.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by solipsism on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @01:29PM
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Not "allowed"? By whom? I'm afraid it's you who is confused. The first amendment doesn't recognize a difference between "editorial content" and non-"editorial content". Comcast could carry only conservative channels without issue.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by nametakenobv on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @01:56PM
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>Comcast could carry only conservative channels without issue.
This is nonsense. When there is concentration in information distribution, the distributor must allow anyone and everyone equal access to the channel.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @03:01PM
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According to what, your gut? If you're going to keep insisting that companies "must" do this or that, you need to cite the law that requires them to do so.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by nametakenobv on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @03:13PM
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According to anti-trust law.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @04:44PM
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Anti-trust laws are about preventing monopolies, which Facebook is not, and have nothing to do with mandating any kind of fair service for non monopolies. No case can be successfully made calling Facebook a monopoly on social networks, you don't have to use them there are many other options.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by nametakenobv on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @04:56PM
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Anti trust law does not deal only with monopolies. It is about companies with dominant positions.
Is facebook a company with dominant position?
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @11:11PM
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You're talking about things you don't understand, there is no case anyone can rationally make that Facebook is subject to anti-trust laws. You do not have to use Facebook, there are tons of other social networking sites, Facebook is not using anti-competitive practices to prevent competition.
Anti-trust laws require far more than just being popular to apply and there's nothing in them that applies to Facebook or any other website. Anti-trust laws in the U.S. have never successfully been used against a website because the very notion is absurd.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by nametakenobv on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @02:39AM
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There are clear methods to decide if a company has dominant position or not. It has nothing to do with whether you can use another one or not. Perhaps you don't have an idea what you are talking about.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @12:38PM
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You're wrong, simple as that. Being dominant simply is not enough. The FTC couldn't even make a case against Google, a far more dominant company than Facebook. You're just making shit up dude, just stop, there is no case here for anti-trust nor will there be.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by nametakenobv on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @01:22PM
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>You're wrong, simple as that. Being dominant simply is not enough.
Yeah, I'm gonna bet on me and my law degree for being right about that. Whether Facebook is in a dominant position is for the court to decide.
You on the other hand are a funny... dude. Haha, "dude" he says :)
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @01:49PM
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Great, get back to me when hell freezes over, because that'll happen before Facebook is ever taken down by anti-trust laws.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by dang on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @03:36PM
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You frequently break the HN guidelines by being uncivil. This is not ok, and we've warned you many times before. If you keep doing it we're going to ban you, despite the fact that we (and I personally) have bent over backwards to avoid doing that.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @01:39PM
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> Facebook is a delivery channel. They do not produce editorial content so they are not allowed to have bias
That's simply not true; they're allowed to do anything they want.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by mason240 on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @02:34PM
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Literally no one is suggesting otherwise.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @02:44PM
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You are literally incorrect as I literally quoted someone suggesting otherwise.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by mason240 on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @03:11PM
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Where?
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @11:12PM
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Try reading the post you replied to.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by nametakenobv on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @01:51PM
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Yeah, I'm sure there is a congressional probe because they're allowed to do anything they want. I'm sure Mark Zuckerberg felt that he had to adress this himself because clearly they can do anything they want.
Re:Facebook admits rogue employees may have shown bias again...
by gnaritas on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @02:19PM
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There's a congressional probe because congress is a political body putting on a show, nothing more. Facebook is a private company, they have no legal obligation to be unbiased. They may have business reasons for wanting to appear unbiased, so Zuck is simply managing the company image. Websites are not broadcast stations and don't fall under the same rules as television, calling them a delivery channel is meaningless, there's no such thing in the law.
Fox News produces editorial content. They are entitled to their opinion thanks to the first Amendment. Facebook is a delivery channel. They do not produce editorial content so they are not allowed to have bias in the very same way that your TV set is not allowed to receive only conservative news channels.
edited for a better analogy.