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Re:‘Brexit’: The Vote That Could Sink Britain's Economy by mc32 on Monday May 23, 2016 @11:26AM (#11754452)
Would you disagree that countries should have a mechanism under their control under which they have a say as to who gets to settle, work or study in their country?

Are customs and border control not useful any longer? Have we decided they aren't something countries should have control over?

Wanting to be able to control ingress is not the same as blocking all ingress. In this case I believe some in the UK, more than anything, resent having their migration policies promulgated in Brussels.

Re:‘Brexit’: The Vote That Could Sink Britain's Economy by izacus on Monday May 23, 2016 @11:29AM (#11754477)
How about counties? Cities? Towns? Neighbours? Federations?

What makes "Holland" so special that it should have the ability to bar people from settling instead of "European Union", "Utrecht" or old grandma from the house across the street?

Re:‘Brexit’: The Vote That Could Sink Britain's Economy by mc32 on Monday May 23, 2016 @11:32AM (#11754493)
That would be something "Holland's" electorate can decide upon, governed by their laws and regulations, rather than policymakers in Brussels.

It's like wanting to dictate to China to abolish the Hukou system. I see it as unfair, but that's their own internal problem to solve.

Re:‘Brexit’: The Vote That Could Sink Britain's Economy by icebraining on Monday May 23, 2016 @12:03PM (#11754710)
Nobody is dictating anything. Holland joined the EU of its own accord.

The question is not whether the people of Holland should be stripped of that decision, but whether they should partially delegate it. And why shouldn't they?

Re:‘Brexit’: The Vote That Could Sink Britain's Economy by mc32 on Monday May 23, 2016 @10:11PM (#11758532)
Why delegate? And what if they want to bring that decision making back home?

I can delegate my finances, or I can make my own choices and maybe I feel like I'll get better served doing things myself.

Re:‘Brexit’: The Vote That Could Sink Britain's Economy by mason240 on Monday May 23, 2016 @11:36AM (#11754529)
So you want open borders?
Re:‘Brexit’: The Vote That Could Sink Britain's Economy by lmm on Monday May 23, 2016 @11:46AM (#11754586)
> Would you disagree that countries should have a mechanism under their control under which they have a say as to who gets to settle, work or study in their country?

I would, actually. Why should the accidents of birth determine something like that?

> Wanting to be able to control ingress is not the same as blocking all ingress.

Realistically that's the only reason people who talk about controlling ingress want to control it though.

> In this case I believe some in the UK, more than anything, resent having their migration policies promulgated in Brussels.

Shrug. I've lived in the UK all my life, but I feel like I have more connection to Brussels than (say) Leeds. (Indeed it would take me less long to get a train there).