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Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by trhway on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @04:44PM (#11624076)
i wonder what such high punitive damages (10x actual assigned) are for. It implies that J&J knowingly did something wrong like a tobacco company.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by rdtsc on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:08PM (#11625871)
> such high punitive damages

J&J's annual revenue is $70B so $55M is what, 0.07% or something like that? They probably spend more on refilling their vending machines.

Or let's put it another way. Say you are making $100K, it would be like paying one $70 fine for giving someone cancer. A speeding violation will be more than that in most states.

Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by refurb on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:30PM (#11625977)
Revenue is not profit.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by beemoe on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:35AM (#11626218)
Neither is base salary.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by rdtsc on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @09:45PM (#11633383)
As a sibling post mentioned already, your base salary is not pure profit either. Most goes to mortage payments, car payments, taxes etc. It is still a worthwhile comparison I think.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by saiya-jin on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @06:14AM (#11627325)
compared to what financial institutions are fined, sans killing anybody, this is nothing.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by pessimizer on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @05:17PM (#11624317)
They knew talc caused cancer and not only covered it up, but turned their marketing to groups less likely to know about it. It's worse than the tobacco coverup, because everybody knew cigarettes were bad for you, just not how bad they actually were.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by ars on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:15PM (#11625277)
> but turned their marketing to groups less likely to know about it

It does appear that way, but it's not true. The marketing was simply toward those who buy it more often that's all.

Knowingly selling a dangerous product is bad enough (it says not to inhale the dust - how exactly are you supposed to use it without making dust?), but let's not criticize them for things that are not real.

Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by kazinator on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:09PM (#11624967)
How can J&J cover that up? Do they control that research? Were they interfering somehow (hush money, that sort of thing)?

Talc is an ancient, traditional material. They never hid the fact that their powder is made of talc. (And that is the selling point. I wouldn't buy some starch-based substitute myself.)

Alcohol turns to acetaldehyde, which is carcinogenic. Thus, sue the fuck everyone who produces wine, whisky, beer, sauerkraut or fermented anything. They are all covering it up by not mentioning cancer on their label!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talc#Food_grade : The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) considers talc (magnesium silicate) to be generally recognized as safe (GRAS) for use as an anti-caking agent in table salt in concentrations smaller than 2%.

Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by adventurer on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:28PM (#11625958)
I believe that is exactly what punitive damages are. J&J caused harm. Since it's not a criminal case, the punitive damages are punishment and a deterrent for them and others not to harm consumers.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by joering2 on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @03:01AM (#11626695)
Why can't it be a criminal case when people got really hurt?

Compare it with someone who forged a $100 bill a few times and went to jail for 20+ years.

Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by gcb0 on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @04:10AM (#11626915)
the law sees the first as a small negligence, and the counterfeiter as soneone undermining State power.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @06:09AM (#11627311)
In criminal cases the measure of guilt is strict, in tort it's usually more relaxed.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by fallenshell on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @04:58PM (#11624192)
It's not like 55 million dollars is much for a company this size.
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by GordonS on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @05:10PM (#11624264)
The article says there are around 1,200 such cases pending... that's a lot of money for any company
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by nerdponx on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:19PM (#11625297)
But certainly far less money than they made
Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by sokoloff on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:33PM (#11625345)
If the implication is that they made more than $66BB USD in profit from the sale of talcum powder, I think you're overestimating dramatically.

JNJ's total annual earnings is around $15BB (from all products).

JNJ's total annual sales of talcum powder are around $400MM. It would take them ~150 years to SELL $60BB of talc, let alone have that amount of profit from talc.

Re:Johnson and Johnson hit with $55M damages in talc cancer ... by mietek on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @03:31AM (#11626797)
Note that Johnson & Johnson have been selling cosmetic talc since 1893.