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Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by stevecalifornia on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @01:50PM (#11622773)
Not plant related, but equally fascinating: There used to be a lake bigger than Lake Tahoe in California between Fresno and Bakersfield. It It was the largest fresh water lake west of the Great Lakes (by surface area). It was drained for agriculture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulare_Lake

Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by gricardo99 on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @04:01PM (#11623739)
I discovered this historical trivia myself by chance not long ago. While stopping in Kettleman City off of I-5, there's a retail complex called Bravo Farms. Inside, near the restrooms there's a map on the wall showing a massive "Tulare Lake". I could hardly believe such a large lake existed in this area not too long ago and it's mostly forgotten.

Google image search, and I found someone else posted a pic of the map: http://ink361.com/app/users/ig-2115609400/eccentricculinary/...

Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by paavokoya on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @01:34AM (#11626435)
Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by bradleyjg on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @03:13PM (#11623388)
There's a similar story in Israel. There used to be two lakes on the Jordan River (which isn't much a river anymore but that's a different story). The famous Sea of Galilee (Kinneret) and one further to the north called Lake Hula (Merom) that existed until it was drained in the 1950s.
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by hasslein on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @05:47PM (#11624497)
I would highly recommend "Cadillac Desert: The American West and its Disappearing Water;" it goes into fair detail about Lake Tulare. Fascinating read.
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by j_s on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @09:46PM (#11625598)
Thanks for the recommendation! Linking here to make sure all the "HN Reads"-ish tools pick it up:

http://amzn.com/dp/B001RTKIUA

Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by kafkaesq on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:34PM (#11625072)
There used to be a fairly sizable indigenous community (referred to by English-speaking settlers as the Yokuts) in the vicinity of that lake. Some 70,000 strong at their pre-contact height (one of the highest regional populations in North America):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokuts_people

As a people they were apparently "drained" nearly out of existence, also, through the combined efforts of Mexican and European settlers, around the time that lake was drained (down to an estimated population of 600 by 1910).

Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by kingmanaz on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @02:09PM (#11622920)
For a good read on what happened to Lake Tulare, read "The King of California". The world's largest cotton plantation now sits in the lakebed and holds primary water rights. Pink sheet stock. Ticker BWEL.
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by ParadigmBlender on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @03:48PM (#11623638)
I went to the library and browsed the book on your recommendation. It is indeed great. It includes a few photos and maps as well. I will have to find the time to read it.
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by hinkley on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:01AM (#11626084)
Did you know there's a group trying to create rice that doesn't absorb arsenic?

It turns out one of the only things that can grow on depleted cotton land is rice, but the pesticides used against weevils contain arsenic, and for some weird reason people don't like to eat rice full of arsenic!

Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by daodedickinson on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @02:25PM (#11623031)
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by j_s on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @09:56PM (#11625632)
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by ashitlerferad on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @03:11AM (#11626725)
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Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by losteric on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @04:14PM (#11623825)
I wonder how all these lost lakes impacted the regional climate
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by samstave on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:24PM (#11625026)
I've often thought about this.

I've wondered; if we built a huge trench from the ocean into the Sahara desert, what would the environmental impact be??

Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by blackbagboys on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:52PM (#11626049)
People have been making plans about how to flood parts of the Sahara for about 100 years. Some of the more colorful options involved using buried nuclear warheads as trench-digging tools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression_Project

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara_Sea

Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by ijk on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @08:21AM (#11627784)
The Amazon rainforest would die. [1]

How much of it actually would die is obviously depends on factors like how big the replacement lake is and how much it affects the phosphorus, but I'm constantly amazed by how seemly separate systems are actually intimately interconnected.

[1] http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/nasa-satellite-reveals-h...

Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by jp555 on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:21PM (#11625921)
I can imagine it would quickly be filled in by sand. The Sahara is a slow moving ocean of sand particles.
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by has2k1 on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @01:08AM (#11626330)
The sand only moves if it is light. When the weather and climate changes, the make up of the sand changes and so does the way it moves. It is a complicated process and it would definitely have some surprises.
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by brazzy on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @03:46AM (#11626840)
Actually, most of the Sahara is rocky, not sandy.
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by chrisdone on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @08:45AM (#11627902)
All the sandworms would die.
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by ParadigmBlender on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @03:45PM (#11623622)
I had no idea about this facinating part of California history. To think I drove by near the spot dozzens of times between SF and LA wihout ever knowing. Thank you!
Re:Scientists say sudden oak death epidemic is no longer sto... by 13of40 on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @02:56AM (#11626677)
Wow - that's actually pretty mindblowing. I lived in Porterville (on the east side of the lake, apparently) when I was a teenager, and my dad was an archaeologist, so he must have known about it but I don't recall him mentioning it. Explains why that whole drive north from there is so flat, though.