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Re:Japan's Growing Poverty Defies Glib Explanations by thaumasiotes on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @05:12AM (#11578823)
> People are poor if they earn less than the average (not median) household. From the article "The report looked at the gap between the income of the poorest Japanese families with children and the average household income."

And I thought the US move to define the poverty line as the 40th percentile of income (or something lower; I don't remember this too well) was absurd. The average household income is, by necessity, well above the 50th percentile everywhere. There is no one seriously advocating that over 50% of every country's population is living in poverty.

Re:Japan's Growing Poverty Defies Glib Explanations by mafribe on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @06:05AM (#11579068)

   the poverty line as the 40th percentile 
   of income [...] was absurd.
It's best understood not as a honest attempt at understanding poverty, but as a political manoeuvre.

In the past (19th century and before), the socialist/communist tradition had a real point in that large swathes of the population were poor in an absolute sense (e.g. going hungry, cold, no adequate health-care, pension etc). The socialist/communist tradition was in some sense about abolishing absolute poverty (whether the proposed methods were helpful or not is another discussion). If you read e.g. the communist manifesto [1], that is clear. Most of socialist/communist politics centered around politicising and radicalising the absolute poor with a view towards taking them out of absolute poverty.

However, modern industrialised society has (simplifying a bit) abolished absolute poverty.

This leaves socialist/communist politics in a conundrum: how to continue to politicise/radicalise people to become followers. The concept of relative poverty is the answer: all the old political tools can be reused by changing what is meant by poverty.

[1] https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-m...

Re:Japan's Growing Poverty Defies Glib Explanations by gozur88 on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @06:12AM (#11579103)
It actually makes less sense than that. The poverty line in the US was calculated one year based on some percentage of the median wage. Don't remember what year that was. But since then they just keep adjusting it by the CPI.