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Re:Heroku Kafka by franciscop on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @12:11AM (#11577777)
I love Heroku and everything they are doing, it's doubtless a push forward for the web as a whole. However, the pricing for hobby sites (including SSL) is crazy from a personal point of view so I'm slowly moving my projects out of it [1][2]. I wish they had some kind of "Hobby Bundle".

[1] http://umbrellajs.com/ [2] http://picnicss.com/

Re:Heroku Kafka by redtuesday on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @04:06AM (#11578584)
Check out Red Hat's Openshift Online [1] if you haven't already. They offer 3 Gears for free, each with 512 MB Ram, 1 GB Disk space (install e.g Postgres into one gear and you have a DB with 1 GB) and you can use Lets Encrypt with their Bronze plan (which is free if you only use the 3 free gears). Depending on what your hobby sites do this could be enough.

[1] https://www.openshift.com/pricing/

Re:Heroku Kafka by polymeris on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @10:31AM (#11580727)
If you are OK with running a >3 year old version of Postgres, that is.

Other than that, openshift is nice, though, I agree.

Re:Heroku Kafka by redtuesday on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @11:37AM (#11581350)
Yes, would be nice if they could upgrade the version of some of the dbs/languages/etc. they support. As a user I could write my own cartridge to support a newer version of Postgres (like I did for Playframework 2.4+), but then I lose the automatic updates and have to update the gear myself.
Re:Heroku Kafka by redtuesday on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @09:21AM (#11580135)
btw: it seems you still can't automate the cert renewal for let's encrypt on openshift online.[1]

[1] https://openshift.uservoice.com/forums/258655-ideas/suggesti...

Re:Heroku Kafka by colinbartlett on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @09:03AM (#11579984)
I am a longtime Heroku customer on an Enterprise service plan at the moment. I brought this up to my sales rep last time he checked in.

I explained how we moved a bunch of smaller sites to S3, reluctantly because I really like having a unified platform for all our sites. But even though (or perhaps precisely because) we are spending thousands of dollars a month with Heroku, I find the $20/month SSL charge insulting. SSL is not an option anymore.

The good news is, the sales rep said this has come up a lot, they hear us, and to "stay tuned".

Re:Heroku Kafka by rthomas6 on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @09:49AM (#11580388)
Sounds like a sales rep.
Re:Heroku Kafka by omfg on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @09:37AM (#11580295)
They were saying the same thing when we left 2 years ago.
Re:Heroku Kafka by sudhirj on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @02:31AM (#11578253)
Their pricing for hobby sites is 7$ + 10$ DB, which is very comparable with a self setup IaaS like DO and AWS. Personally I think the developer experience is much better on Heroku and quite worth it.

SSL is a pain point, though I do empathize with them - I think they're doing something expensive for that. What I do is to use AWS Cloudfront and ACM for a free cert and site speedup - if they are personal projects the CF bill ought to be in the low few dollars anyway.

Re:Heroku Kafka by flurdy on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @05:51AM (#11578977)
The $7 is comparable to one app per DO or AWS micro/nano server. So Heroku wins on convenience.

If you have say 10 apps then Heroku costs 10*$7, but you might still only have used 1-3 servers depending on memory use of apps etc so then Heroku looses on cost.

Naturally I got a total mix of quite a few on Heroku's classic or new free plan, some on their hobby plan, some on AWS, some on docker cloud, most proxied behind a SSL certificate running on AWS..... (https://flurdy.com/docs/letsencrypt/nginx.html)

Re:Heroku Kafka by franciscop on Thursday April 28, 2016 @09:46AM (#11588757)
Yeah, but I started with PHP I could just choose among many hosting companies for 5-10$/month and you get your shared space with unlimited domains, which was perfectly suited for my needs at that point. Of course as I learned more, Node and the such I needed better technology and that's why I moved to Heroku. So I'd love to see a "shared hosting for heroku" or similar. I think it will happen given some time, when the Node.js environment stabilizes more and more big players come.
Re:Heroku Kafka by balamaci on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @07:01AM (#11579308)
DO has 5$ + VAT price for 512MB instance. I have no problem accommodating mysql + web on that.
Re:Heroku Kafka by why-el on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @03:32AM (#11578473)
+ 7$ for a worker I think.
Re:Heroku Kafka by mintplant on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @04:18AM (#11578620)
It looks like those are static sites. Why host them on Heroku? You could stick them on GitHub Pages [1] for free.

[1] https://pages.github.com/

Re:Heroku Kafka by nickfrostatx on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @05:59AM (#11579029)
The S3 Free Tier can be a good alternative as well. https://aws.amazon.com/s3/
Re:Heroku Kafka by colinbartlett on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @09:05AM (#11579992)
Even off the free tier, S3 + Cloudfront is now my static host of choice. Incredibly cheap for my low traffic side projects and free (and instant) SSL certificate setup.
Re:Heroku Kafka by dkersten on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @07:42AM (#11579477)
AWS free tier is free for 12 months only. Its basically a "new customer" special. Github pages is not time limited.
Re:Heroku Kafka by franciscop on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @11:41PM (#11586430)
now they are static sites built with grunt. Before they were dynamic so the documentation and tests could be joined and runned dynamically. Now I just do that before push, which had me change the organization of few things. I converted them and I'm now hosting them in Github Pages for that same reason. I learned a lot about grunt, phantomjs and SSL with cloudflare on the process though, so I'm happy with the result.
Re:Heroku Kafka by njudah on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @08:18AM (#11579688)
There will be news on this front soon; stay tuned.
Re:Heroku Kafka by mtw on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @09:16AM (#11580083)
I host most of my sites on Github pages (Free) and Ruby / Go / Elixir / nodejs projects on DigitalOcean. I also host various logging/analytics/mailing services on DigitalOcean without paying saas services. Total is very reasonable
Re:Heroku Kafka by desireco42 on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @10:43AM (#11580821)
And what awesome projects those are. Thank you!
Re:Heroku Kafka by franciscop on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @11:43PM (#11586437)
Thanks :)
Re:Heroku Kafka by mateuszf on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @04:06AM (#11578585)
If you have multiple applications though - it's possible to use one ssl terminator per domain.
Re:Heroku Kafka by tlrobinson on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @11:24AM (#11581204)
One option for HTTPS is to just stick CloudFlare in front of it.