Being a Developer After 40

Re:Being a Developer After 40 by interpol_p on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @09:38AM (#11571718)

Because we don't completely know whether preferences differ, or whether cultural biases cause those preferences to differ.

I have a young boy and a girl. They are pushed into so many gendered roles from such a young age I have a really hard time trying to figure out what they actually like, versus what society tells them they should like.

My son recently picked up a pink toy in a store and said "I can't have this one because it's for girls, daddy." He used to love the colour pink. I wanted to scream in frustration because society has pushed him to rate a wavelength of light as "for girls" or "for boys." I told him that anyone can like whatever colour they want. But he now refuses to play with pink toys, because society has made it very clear that he's not supposed to touch them.

So yeah, maybe women would make fine plumbers and miners. We have typically pushed men into those roles. So we'll never know.

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Re:Being a Developer After 40 by rimantas on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @10:21AM (#11572074)

So don't call it a problem if you don't know it is a problem.

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Re:Being a Developer After 40 by collyw on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @10:51AM (#11572354)

Worth looking at this before assuming that "society has pushed him".

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13596-male-monkeys-pr...

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Re:Being a Developer After 40 by eric_the_read on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @10:52AM (#11572361)

To add to the amusement/despair value, pink used to be considered a boy's colour during Victorian times, because it was considered a stronger, bolder colour, whereas blue was more delicate and feminine and thus suitable for girls.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/10/pink-used-co...

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Re:Being a Developer After 40 by exstudent2 on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @09:49AM (#11571791)

It sounds like your son exercised his free will. Whether you influence him or society does, he ultimately has to be responsible for his choices. Some will be easy, some hard but it's a cliche to disagree with your child's choices.

Maybe he's comfortable with his gender and gender roles? Maybe that will help him get a wife someday and you grandchildren. It's not for everyone but maybe it will be for him.

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Re:Being a Developer After 40 by interpol_p on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @10:18AM (#11572047)

I don’t “disagree with his choices.” I find it frustrating that our culture made him feel ashamed of liking his favourite colour. I find it frustrating that he is made to believe something as arbitrary as a wavelength of light is “for girls.”

A child should never feel ashamed of liking something as simple as a colour. That is ridiculous.

> Maybe he's comfortable with his gender and gender roles? Maybe that will help him get a wife someday and you grandchildren. It's not for everyone but maybe it will be for him.

Are you serious? He can get a wife or whatever he wants when he knows what that is. It is amusing to think that traditional "gender roles" would help in any way with that.

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Re:Being a Developer After 40 by logfromblammo on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @11:30AM (#11572684)

It isn't an arbitrary wavelength. It's an entire absorption spectrum.

If the wavelength were the determining factor, green would be gender-neutral, and purple would be androgynous.

Not that this particular societal prejudice could ever be explained rationally, of course.~

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