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Re:Dominions of fizz: the carbonated-drinks industry and pub... by jdmichal on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @06:41PM (#11435170)
... That's exactly what I was referring to? You seem to be confused. Your responded to a post stating that energy is never destroyed, with the sentence:

"Energy is about the only resource where this doesn't hold true."

Re:Dominions of fizz: the carbonated-drinks industry and pub... by PepeGomez on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @07:39AM (#11438060)
Once you use the energy and it turns into heat, you can no longer use it.
Re:Dominions of fizz: the carbonated-drinks industry and pub... by jdmichal on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:28PM (#11442719)
First, heat is energy. Second, you can use heat as heat. Third, you can use heat to boil water to turn a turbine to create electricity, which you can use to do very many things, including create heat.
Re:Dominions of fizz: the carbonated-drinks industry and pub... by PepeGomez on Thursday April 07, 2016 @05:44AM (#11446012)
No, you can't do that. If you could do that, you could build a perpetuum mobile.
Re:Dominions of fizz: the carbonated-drinks industry and pub... by jdmichal on Thursday April 07, 2016 @10:21AM (#11447447)
Yes, you can: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_heat_recovery_unit

Now, whether we can effectively use the energy is an entirely other question. There's plenty of technical limitations. But in a closed system there's no reason an object cannot have perpetual motion with perfect energy recovery. Of course, closed systems don't help us, because they cannot exert useful work outside of the system.

Re:Dominions of fizz: the carbonated-drinks industry and pub... by PepeGomez on Saturday April 09, 2016 @03:43AM (#11460394)
You can't. You can increase the efficiency that way, but you can't use it to produce limitless energy. We wouldn't be burning fossil fuels if that was an option.
Re:Dominions of fizz: the carbonated-drinks industry and pub... by jdmichal on Sunday April 10, 2016 @04:37PM (#11468050)
You're not "producing" limitless energy. You're reusing the existing energy, because the energy cannot be destroyed. Again, there's no reason why this can't be done within a closed system, except for our technical limitations. Indeed, tracking and recovering energy is the entire idea behind reversible computing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_computing#Physical_...