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Re:Reddit removed NSL canary from 2015 Transparency Report by morsch on Thursday March 31, 2016 @08:16PM (#11401627)
Anybody monitoring their traffic who is also capable of breaking TLS.
Re:Reddit removed NSL canary from 2015 Transparency Report by ryan-c on Friday April 01, 2016 @12:50AM (#11402725)
Traffic flow analysis would probably work quite well on reddit. They could confirm/deny with high confidence whether certain subreddits/posts are accessed without any need to decrypt, just by how big the responses are.
Re:Reddit removed NSL canary from 2015 Transparency Report by e12e on Friday April 01, 2016 @07:02AM (#11403976)
I was initially sceptical that traffic analysis would be enough, but it appears that mainstream TLS does indeed leak a lot of metadata, especially with the typical structure of splitting resources across distinct servers (eg: static.example.com for images). I wonder if the security of something the size of Reddit might not be improved by simply having a large fleet of dns round-robin app servers that all deliver all content from one domain.

I found:

"Identifying Website Users by TLS Traffic Analysis: New Attacks and Effective Countermeasures"

https://hal.inria.fr/hal-00732449/

Does anyone know of other, recent research in this area? It's been a long time since I last looked at opaque data captures of TLS/SSL traffic.

I also found: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-chacha20-poly1305... which states in part:

"It should be noted that AEADs, such as ChaCha20-Poly1305, are not intended to hide the lengths of plaintexts. When this document speaks of side-channel attacks, it is not considering traffic analysis, but rather timing and cache side-channels. Traffic analysis, while a valid concern, is outside the scope of the AEAD and is being addressed elsewhere in future versions of TLS."

On a skim of https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-11 I couldn't find anything new wrt. recommendations on padding with the goal of thwarting traffic analysis?

Anyone have any pointers on this?

Re:Reddit removed NSL canary from 2015 Transparency Report by 13of40 on Friday April 01, 2016 @01:17AM (#11402815)
Since all the posts on Reddit are timestamped, someone sniffing traffic could probably do a decent job tying HTTPS requests (and the IP addresses they came from) to new posts that show up, and the users who posted them.
Re:Reddit removed NSL canary from 2015 Transparency Report by imaginenore on Thursday March 31, 2016 @10:21PM (#11402123)
Or somebody who has access to their servers, which are AWS.

I would be shocked if NSA didn't get a secret court order to get AWS access.

Re:Reddit removed NSL canary from 2015 Transparency Report by simplemath on Friday April 01, 2016 @02:37AM (#11403089)
Who needs to break encryption when you can break 99% of deployed OS kernels across all platforms?
Re:Reddit removed NSL canary from 2015 Transparency Report by komaromy on Thursday March 31, 2016 @08:25PM (#11401665)
So, the NSA.