> Fish and oh-my-zsh both take about 5 seconds to init though. If you don't like that you should be using prezto (which is the fork he mentions in the article)

You must have a lot of expensive stuff crammed into your config.fish file, for me fish takes < 1 second to init.

A config.fish consisting of the line 'alias a=echo' repeated 200 times takes 3 seconds to start. No config file starts out in 50 ms. So my 200 aliases seem to be the culprit here. And to be fair my init time is actually a bit over 2 seconds.

Can you remember 200 aliases?

http://fisherman.sh/ is the prezto of fish shell. Works great and is blazingly fast.

As a Fish user since it's inception, I humbly disagree.

Oh-My-Fish[0] is the preferred and popular plugin framework for Fish. The guy behind Fisherman abused DMCA to discredit OMF, which was a pretty shady tactic for an open-source project.

[0]https://github.com/oh-my-fish/oh-my-fish

> The guy behind Fisherman abused DMCA to discredit OMF

I am one of the guys behind Fisherman and I didn't abuse the DMCA to discredit OMF, on the contrary, I used it to have my name properly represented in their AUTHORS file.

Now, one thing I am accountable for is, spending days and weeks nurturing and improving the project when I was involved with it. I don't know where you get your facts from, but I urge you to pay a visit to the contributor graphs in the OMF GitHub page and see who's done what and how much.

> is the preferred and popular plugin framework for Fish.

Not according to reality → http://why.fisherman.sh

I really want to use something like Fish (or at least try out a whole lot of not-bash, at least to force me to write /bin/sh compatible scripts) but because it's not installed by default I often don't get around to it. I really should go back to learning Ansible...

>Fish and oh-my-zsh both take about 5 seconds to init though

Greatly disagree on the fish startup time, for me it takes approximately the same time as bash. Can't comment on zsh though.

You mean something like https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions?

Regarding fish startup time I had a problem with fish taking forever before. Turned out my ~/.config/fish/fishd.<hostname> file had erroneously ballooned to many megabytes. This caused a very long startup time. It should typically be a few kilobytes.

What actually ended up in this file?

I actually never looked inside! I deleted all of those files without looking in them. Only after my performance improved did I check my scrollback and notice it was huge :(

Prezto is not terribly fast either, in my experience. I went from oh-my-zsh to prezto, and from there to a simple config, always just to reduce bloat.

The unit times definitely depends on how trim you keep your configure. My OMZ takes about 1-2 seconds to init on my slowest machine