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Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by SilasX on Sunday March 13, 2016 @01:29PM (#11278486)
OT: What's with using monotype for quotes? That's breaks line wrapping and makes it hard to read on mobile or small screens. I don't get why people do it.
Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by ScottBurson on Sunday March 13, 2016 @04:54PM (#11279290)
"People" don't do it; HN does it. Indented lines in a post are always monospaced, on the assumption, I suppose, that they're likely to be code examples. There's no way to turn this off AFAIK.

And no, HN does not use Markdown.

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by SilasX on Sunday March 13, 2016 @07:24PM (#11279929)
I know the formatting system. My question is why the users are formatting their text (e.g. with 4 places leading each line) *suc that HN renders it as monospace, which then forces a sideways scroll on mobile and small screens. That seems to make it harder to read for some with no corresponding upside.
Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by ScottBurson on Sunday March 13, 2016 @11:41PM (#11280914)
Oh. Well, I think they just don't realize that HN will monospace it.

I agree with you, it's annoying.

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by SilasX on Monday March 14, 2016 @01:02PM (#11283935)
They don't realize it even after seeing their post go live? And seeing what other people's monotype quotes look like?

I never like to assume malice, but ...

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by maxerickson on Sunday March 13, 2016 @05:06PM (#11279351)
The people indent the text (or fail to remove the leading white space when copying).

It isn't a huge time sink to wrap a paragraph in stars.

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by mst on Sunday March 13, 2016 @04:37PM (#11279237)
I think mostly people forget that > works and that therefore you can do

> quotes like this

since it's markdown - often you get commentish things that allow limited HTML plus indented code blocks, and people get used to using the latter as the only thing that works everywhere

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by ScottBurson on Sunday March 13, 2016 @04:56PM (#11279299)
'>' doesn't "work"; it doesn't do anything on HN. It's just a convention that readers recognize as indicating quotation.

HN does not use Markdown.

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by DanBC on Sunday March 13, 2016 @06:18PM (#11279631)
At least ">" doesn't break anything.

    Pre is broken on mobile, forcing users to scroll a horizontal line which is incredibly annoying if it's a long line.
Here's a screen shot: http://imgur.com/Ru56wMK

And pre with very long unbroken lines is even worse.

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by ScottBurson on Sunday March 13, 2016 @11:43PM (#11280922)
I wasn't expressing a value judgment, just trying to explain how HN works.

I agree with you that it's annoying when people post long indented lines.

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by choosername on Monday March 14, 2016 @02:53AM (#11281417)
it can be touch-scrolled here, there just aren't scroll bars. Took me a while to find, but maybe your browser is buggy, eve.
Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by krapp on Sunday March 13, 2016 @04:59PM (#11279312)
I noticed people were doing this and wrote a userscript a while ago to make it work. I kind of wish HN supported it.

https://gist.github.com/kennethrapp/7a21c0187fedd6f47e7c

Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by mintplant on Sunday March 13, 2016 @06:12PM (#11279605)
I wrote in a while ago to ask that it be officially supported, but apparently that would break something that HN's spam filter relies on.
Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by jkyle on Sunday March 13, 2016 @01:32PM (#11278495)
Looks good in desktop browsers.
Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by nightpool on Sunday March 13, 2016 @06:30PM (#11279704)
not really: http://i.imgur.com/uxqERat.png (you have to be very careful about what indentation level you're at, how long your lines are, etc, etc, things that people just don't do most of the time)
Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by hguant on Sunday March 13, 2016 @03:47PM (#11279056)
It's also customary when quoting large sections of text. I'm not sure if this carried over from email, or from academic texts (where if your quote is more than a line or two, it needs to be formatted differently).
Re:Lee Sedol Beats AlphaGo in Game 4 by mst on Sunday March 13, 2016 @04:36PM (#11279233)
I think mostly people forget that > works and that therefore you can do

> q