I submitted another related article (and posted a summary) with more emphasis on the specifics, including when this nag does and doesn't appear to be showing up:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11261438
While I'm here, I'll add my voice to the chorus of people who think they're crazy to include not just non-security but clearly not-even-important functionality in a bundled security update. That was a line they should never have crossed, and it's going to cost them much of whatever trust they had left after the earlier GWX unpleasantness and the questionable practices of Windows 10 itself.
Edit: In fact, this Business Insider article seems to be a thin wrapper for the more detailed Infoworld one I submitted before, which is here:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3042155/microsoft-windows/w...
Maybe. If your goal is to nag as many home users and small business customers as possible, while avoiding irritating your larger business customers as much as possible, it's probably a pretty good heuristic.
Windows 10 adds some improvements over windows 7, like hyper-v and http2. But in my experience it is nowhere as stable.
It's appalling to see how Microsoft is shooting itself in the foot...
The only option for anyone who doesn't want to upgrade is to turn automatic updating off, keep it turned off forever, and manually verify every update you receive, making certain the update to Windows 10 is unchecked every single time. Microsoft only going to become more aggressive and more deceptive about this in the future. They can no longer be trusted with their own product. Windows Update has become no better than the adware-infested installers that CNet or Sourceforge wrap applications with.
1. low risk of catching random malware (which so far is zero)
2. 100% chance of getting microsoft nagware
So yes, actually I consciously disabled windows update, because of the two, "get windows 10" is more annoying.
This is on my gaming PC though, so in the worst case I'll simply restore it from image and re-download games from Steam. So as I said, generally I do agree ;)
Too bad. This is what happens when the OS vendor becomes the threat. Trust is important, and the Windows Update team has betrayed mine.
(And spare me the tiresome "B...b...but they didn't do anything you didn't agree to in the EULA!" routine.)
don't recommend that they turn off windows updates.
...unless you also recommend they use a different browser (e.g. FireFox with NoScript) and don't use the default settings. IMHO the amount of bugs that remain remotely exploitable with such a configuration (or even just IE with most of the extra stuff turned off) is reduced to be essentially none --- and if one does show up, like the WMF exploit (remember that?) you'll probably be able to install a patch just for it. IE has a Trusted Sites functionality, so you can whitelist the sites that really need that stuff if you must use it, with other random sites on the Internet being allowed much less exploitable functionality.
That said, I hope someone figures out the security-relevant portion of the update and how to patch out the other crap. But then again, with what Windows is these days, the binaries are probably signed and there will be tons of other hoops to jump through to get that to work...
People with your point of view should also consider the ramifications when you (implicitly or otherwise) condone Microsoft's behavior in threads like this.
You're definitely not wrong about any of that, unfortunately. This, on the other hand...
Nobody is condoning Microsoft's behaviour by saying you should apply the security fixes.
.... I'm not buying. The fact is that Windows Update is no longer any more trustworthy than SourceForge or any other infamous source of unsolicited bundled adware. Another, related fact is that I can't be bothered to do the necessary research to tell what is a genuine security fix versus yet another "mistake" that results in Windows 10 ads (if not the OS itself) appearing on my PC the next morning.
For some reason I don't understand, Nadella is getting away with doing things with Windows that would have gotten Gates or Ballmer crucified. Every knowledgeable user who doesn't condemn them vociferously for attempting to use an important security update service to force-feed a major OS upgrade is part of this particular problem.
For literally decades, the best practice has been, "Never upgrade an existing Windows installation. Always do a clean install." There were many very good reasons for this advice to be given to nontechnical users. Now, all of a sudden, this advice is apparently obsolete because... because it's inconvenient for Microsoft's marketing efforts?!
Sorry, no. Not buying it. Microsoft is no longer allowed to exploit my machine at will, under the guise of security or any other motivation. Believe me, if I could afford to ditch them entirely without cutting my own throat, I would. That part is my responsibility.
It's Microsoft and Intel that don't support the WiFi card, and I can't find the replacement that I can put in the full-size space in the notebook. There are extenders available to support the more modern (supported) half-size cards, but these adapters don't solve the problem of too short antenna cables.
You might try installing the libinput-based drivers (xserver-xorg-input-libinput), and removing the synaptics driver. libinput has far better handling for current touchpads.
Edit: I'm reading about "libinput" that it has "palm detection" but it's certainly not my problem with the pseudo "noise." Even when I hold only and just one finger, the mouse cursor "trembles" and "shakes."
It's great that Linux makes it possible to manually fix such things, but it's even better when they work out of the box.
libinput also adds better noise filtering, finger position precision, and other improved algorithms. I found it quite an improvement even on my current laptop with a great touchpad, and on another laptop it made the difference between usable and unusable.
And also not an excuse for not fixing the svchost problem:
(updates got immensely slower around the time since the "Get Windows 10 "updates started to appear)
http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/392938-sv...
And for not allowing users to control the updates in Windows 10:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/49wcua/svchostex...
Also, my statement wasn't meant to imply that a good upgrade experience was an excuse for Microsoft's behavior in regards to the constant "upgrade now" nagging or ignoring issues that impact its customers.
the Intel processor,
the Intel chipset,
the Intel graphics card,
the Intel WiFi card, most expensive of that times,
the maximum amount of memory for the CPU and chipset (4 GB) and
the most expensive Windows 7 version installed.
I'd even say it can't be more straightforward than that. And what's worse, the Windows 10 Upgrade program "tested" the configuration and claimed "everything will be fine." Now it nags even after I reverted to Windows 7. Windows 7 has no problems, Windows 10 has problem with interrupts handling.
And the Windows 7 "hours long" update problem is surely known to Microsoft, I've diagnosed it on my machine too, this function:
wuaueng.dll!CUpdatesToPruneList::AddSupersedenceInfoIfNeeded
appears to still (after the 2016 March update of the Update Client (7.6.7601.19161) and KB3102810 installed) be called almost infinite number of times. I guess it's some unnecessary recursion on an O(N to a high power) loop which was tolerable for small number of existing files in the list of all updates, and now explodes. Microsoft appears to avoid fixing that code even if it's quite obvious for anybody who knows to interpret the stack.In desperation, I ended up running WSUS inside a VM and pointing my laptop at that VM in order to get updates installed. :-/
So it might be the fact that it's the Enterprise version of the OS, not the domain join.
After trying to revert to Windows 7, it wasn't fully recovered (the scheduled tasks, created by Windows, remained corrupted). So I had to restore Windows 7 from my backup. But it seems iTunes remain confused ("can't sync due to unknown error") as apparently some permissions in user directories remain different than initially even now?
So I've added some registry entries which were supposed to mean "I don't want Windows 10." And I've hidden the updates that install "Get Windows 10."
Yet not only the Update tries to install the "Get Windows 10" every month (un-hiding the updates without me!), the updates last for hours (the famous svchost looping in some unnecessary checking of something that doesn't have to be checked almost infinite number of times).
(Unfortunately Linux isn't working optimally on the notebook either, making the touchpad unusable and not handling the vendor Fn keys.)
Now I know that the nags came with the security patch of IE, which means that I can't even avoid it if I want to have security updates installed. Horrible. How is then that the nag doesn't happen for business users if it's a part of the security patch?