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Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by xivzgrev on Friday March 04, 2016 @08:53AM (#11223661)
This is nuts I don't know of another crowd source that raised so much so fast. How did you hear about them to invest, and why did you?
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by shawabawa3 on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:03AM (#11223712)
I heard about them on Hacker News I think.

I invested mainly because I like the idea of a bank where I can do everything online. There's no reason I should still have to call or go in to a store to change my address/unblock my card (because of their crappy fraud detection) etc

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by forgetsusername on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:11AM (#11223756)
>I invested mainly because I like the idea of a bank where I can do everything online.

Is this really unavailable in the US? Here in Canada, PC Financial has been operating like that for well over a decade. Sure, they have kiosks in some of their grocery stores for those people who want to talk to somebody (which is genius, really), but it's entirely virtual. I've operated almost exclusively online, outside of lost cards and things of that nature. Ordering cheques, creating new accounts, switching pins, transferring money, it's all a couple of clicks.

>There's no reason I should still have to call or go in to a store to change my address/unblock my card

So you'd prefer your bank didn't freeze the card based on what they deem to be suspicious activity? Good luck to those banks...

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by shawabawa3 on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:15AM (#11223775)
> Is this really unavailable in the US?

This is in the UK, and it might be available but certainly not with any of the major banks

> So you'd prefer your bank didn't freeze the card based on what they deem to be suspicious activity?

They'll still block cards on suspicious activity, but they allow you to manually unblock/block cards using the mobile app, and they can also use your phone location in their algorithms if you open the app while abroad

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by beejiu on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:33AM (#11223910)
> This is in the UK, and it might be available but certainly not with any of the major banks

I recently opened an account with HSBC fully online; didn't need to go into a branch. Think I have been to my Santander branch once over 4 years. I think the real advantage of 'online only' is not for consumer convenience but for lower operating costs on part of the bank. Smile and Egg were online only banks created in the late 90's, so the idea isn't new.

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by phillc73 on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:35AM (#11223932)
I guess we might disagree on the definition of major bank, but I've had an account with Smile[0], part of the Co-Operative Bank, for over 10 years. It's an Internet only bank, with no physical branches. I've always done everything online. What does Mondo offer that Smile doesn't?

Also, as it is actually part of the Co-Operative bank, on the rare occasions where I've needed to withdraw a large lump sum of cash, I've been able to use those Co-Operative branches (that's happened about three times in 10 years).

I also have a Number26 account,[1] which I only opened a few months ago. Again, I don't see the Mondo advantage. In the Mondo Beta phase customers must be London based and iPhone users. No such Number26 restrictions.

I suppose I just don't understand the Mondo hype. They're good at marketing, but don't seem to offer much that isn't already available elsewhere.

[0] http://www.smile.co.uk

[1] https://number26.eu/

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by hawaiikaos on Friday March 04, 2016 @10:49AM (#11224491)
I'm a Mondo user. Things I like about it:

- no login bullshit (no pinsentry, or being timed out after 5 minutes or whatever)

- instant card freeze/unfreeze from the app. I don't have to talk to anyone to do it

- push notifications for every purchase (including full text entries for where the transaction was, and a cute little topical emoji)

- no hassling with PDFs of my transaction history, there's a god-damned API (and for the average consumer, there's the potential to have a constellation of 3rd party apps to deal with anything on the API). There's also in-app transaction breakdowns (for instance, I can see how much I spend in a particular category, or at a particular place). SHOW ME ANOTHER BANK WITH AN API

- I always know how much money I have in the account; there's not "available balance/actual balance" bullshit.

Honestly the main thing is that's really easy to use. I'm generally terrible at keeping track of how much money I have (usually because I avoid cash machines (I don't know who's still using cash in London, pretty much everything is contactless) and logging into online banking is a hassle). With Mondo, I can find my balance in one tap.

And yeah, they've earned my loyalty and I invested in them yesterday. Sign up for a card, use it, then criticise it.

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by phillc73 on Friday March 04, 2016 @12:22PM (#11225222)
Apart from the API, which I just haven't looked into, my Number26 account has all of those things covered. I'm also not restricted to being a London living iPhone user.

I just don't understand the Mondo hype. Their service isn't unique in Europe and with their beta restrictions, I think their offering is behind some competitors.

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by notahacker on Friday March 04, 2016 @11:21AM (#11224764)
I'm not sure if any other bank provides their own API for people to hack their own accounts with, but all my high street bank accounts are accessible to an ecosystem of third party apps that do things like transaction breakdowns via Yodlee (an API intermediary)
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by neximo4 on Friday March 04, 2016 @11:49AM (#11224971)
If you ask the bank they'll let you use it. I's still in a sort of beta phase but all UK banks have to have them soon under a HM treasury directive on 'Open Banking'.
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by dtf on Friday March 04, 2016 @01:05PM (#11225611)
Isn't Number26 Germany only for the moment?
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by spdustin on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:17AM (#11223790)
He said he didn't want to have to physically visit a branch to unblock his card, not that he wanted a card without fraud protection.
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by seibelj on Friday March 04, 2016 @10:51AM (#11224507)
Ally Bank?
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by birdman3131 on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:08AM (#11223743)
Simple had the exact same idea years ago. I think they are still around and doing well although I have not looked at them in a while. (I think last time I looked you needed android or iOS and I am a windows phone user.)
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by Scottymeuk on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:17AM (#11223789)
Simple only went so far. They are just a nice interface on top of another bank. Mondo are becoming a full bank themselves.
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by smcl on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:38AM (#11223947)
Hang on a sec - wasn't Simple's original vision to become a full bank and to start off as a nice interface?

Because Mondo want to become a full bank, but have started off as a nice interface ...

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by penfold27 on Friday March 04, 2016 @10:07AM (#11224175)
Thats right.
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by izolate on Friday March 04, 2016 @11:08AM (#11224635)
I spoke to Tom (CEO of Mondo) at HN London about Simple. His take is that Simple failed, and that Mondo are following a different path.

I'm not clued in enough to know the benefit of being a bank vs. building a UI over a willing banking partner's service.

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by onion2k on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:09AM (#11223749)
I really like the idea, but mainly as a driver for the other high street banks to do better. While I don't have the sort of money where I'd actually lose anything if Mondo failed (the government insures everything up to about £35k) I can only imagine how much hassle it'd be to try and move everything away from them if they did fail - especially if they failed in a way that meant they closed their mobile app API down without notice.
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by Scottymeuk on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:17AM (#11223785)
It's worth noting that Mondo are not insured yet, so any money in there now is not insured.
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by shawabawa3 on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:27AM (#11223865)
Until they get accredited all the funds are stored by Wirecard, their issuing bank, which is insured
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by jhoechtl on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:34AM (#11223923)
How will a pure online bank be any better ... What guarantees that their fraud detection will be any better?

Second, I dont know about your situation but for us Austrians getting my money from the ATM is free because traditional banks finance the ATM infrastructure. As there are now more and more online banks in the future I will have to pay once I want my money because online banks effectively utilize the infrastructure created by traditional banks.

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by d4nt on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:47AM (#11224020)
The transition was subtle, but these days [checking] banks are actually just Software/API companies. They provide an online account that supports the established electronic money transfer protocols in whatever country you happen to live.

The fact that they have a network of retail stores in which you can talk to a salesperson about a loan is just a hangover from history. A bank without those elements would probably have much lower costs.

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by jmedwards on Friday March 04, 2016 @10:24AM (#11224302)
If we assume that when Mondo raised from their investors a year ago - £2m for around 20-30% (assumed) of the company (http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/30/mondo-gets-passionate/), how do you feel about the £1m valuation on 3.3% today?
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by vidarh on Friday March 04, 2016 @10:24AM (#11224301)
Which bank is this? I have have cards with Barclays and MBNA in the UK, and neither makes you visit them to unblock cards. At least they've never made me do so.
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by tehwalrus on Friday March 04, 2016 @10:31AM (#11224357)
First direct?
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by neximo4 on Friday March 04, 2016 @11:43AM (#11224909)
I like there's absolute no fees when using the debit card abroad and you get the exchange rate 'at cost'. There's a building society that does this but it needs 5k or 500 a month in deposits

I absolutely love that because I visit my family quite often and I'm usually ripped off with fees.

I heard about them when they were applying for their license and just felt lots of people would find it appealing. While it is making less money they save a lot too.

Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by coob on Friday March 04, 2016 @12:24PM (#11225238)
Halifax have a credit card that does exactly this.
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by neximo4 on Friday March 04, 2016 @01:14PM (#11225676)
Never saw this card. Looks quite useful!
Re:Startup bank Mondo raised £1m crowdfunding in 96 seconds by charlieegan3 on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:06AM (#11223737)
They've been talked about on HN more than once. Pretty sure that's how I heard of them.

I invested to show support, I've had various current accounts and the usability has always been really poor. Time for something to shake the uk banks up a little, hopefully make them care about their customers a little more.