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Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by Zezima on Thursday February 18, 2016 @04:14PM (#11129372)
If you've already pre labeled yourself as a "hater of X" they you're throwing away your ability to create new opinions and judgements when situations change.

This is not a healthy mentality to have about anything.

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by fenomas on Thursday February 18, 2016 @08:04PM (#11130761)
Principle of Charity, for hell's sake. There's no reason to assume they're saying "I have an irrational dislike of Apple which new evidence will not change" when "I've developed an unfavorable view of Apple and have been critical of them in the past" is just as reasonable an interpretation.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by ghayes on Thursday February 18, 2016 @08:18PM (#11130834)
To add to that, it looks like OP's entire post is how he's revising his opinion in light of new facts.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by baldfat on Friday February 19, 2016 @07:28AM (#11133083)
Well still don't like the locked down nature of their "Walled Garden" and the price of their hardware but I would like to think I am able to applaud a good deed no matter who does the deed.

We all have biases I just like to think I try to make mine more vocal :)

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by gregschlom on Thursday February 18, 2016 @04:45PM (#11129567)
> you're throwing away your ability to create new opinions and judgements when situations change.

Isn't that precisely what the OP did though? He created new opinions when the situation changed.

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by polack on Thursday February 18, 2016 @06:17PM (#11130174)
Exactly. It would be pretty stupid to only take the last event into account when judging something, but OP clearly showed that he could change his views despite not liking their history.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by RIMR on Thursday February 18, 2016 @05:28PM (#11129856)
It's called having a preference. I love PC gaming, so I call console gamers "peasants", but I totally own a PS4 and play Destiny all the time. I don't actually hate consoles, but I certainly hate on consoles.

I used to have an iPhone, but after it got outdated, I bought an Android phone. I also find OSX difficult to use and prefer Linux and Windows. I prefer Android, Windows and Linux, and think Google has better business practices than Apple. I guess you could also call me an "Apple hater", but I really just give people a hard time for having different preferences than I do.

I 100% stand behind Apple's standing up for security. I 100% support them backing down from their original justification of the intentional Error 53. I still prefer non-Apple things, so I'll advocate for it.

There's no real hate going on here. Every time there's a new console, the "Console Wars" heat back up again, but nobody really hates each other, they're just vehemently defending their personal preferences.

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by _frog on Thursday February 18, 2016 @11:35PM (#11131568)
> It's called having a preference. I love PC gaming, so I call console gamers "peasants"

Don't you consider this maybe a bit childish and petty? Having a preference is one thing, but that's no excuse for being dismissive and inflammatory.

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by baldfat on Friday February 19, 2016 @07:31AM (#11133096)
Well some people would call that fun. Seriously in the Northeast of the States the more we badger someone the more we actually care about them.

Outsiders say "Man, you hate that guy! me: What? he was my best man in my wedding last week! (True Story)

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by freehunter on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:54AM (#11133742)
If you heard the way I talk to and about my best man, you'd think I actually wanted to kill him. We're going to see Deadpool and have a few drinks tomorrow.

The reason we can say those things is because of how close we are to that person.

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by pluma on Friday February 19, 2016 @05:45AM (#11132765)
There's a difference between hate speech and playful insults.

In case you are not familiar with the culture: there is a longstanding tradition of playful insults between console and PC gamers as well as in gaming in general. There's nothing inflammatory about this, it's all in jest and the participants are aware of it.

It's childish, I suppose, but we're talking about video games after all.

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by reitanqild on Friday February 19, 2016 @08:50AM (#11133402)
Someone already explained a couple of times but let me chime in as well: I think opinions like yours (cracking down at completely innocent humor) is destroying to online culture.

Remember: we are a lot of different people here and if we should all judge each another based on our own backgrounds the noise level would likely increase to a level where most sane people left.

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by rnernento on Thursday February 18, 2016 @04:30PM (#11129483)
Sometimes a company takes actions I consider to be pretty terrible (e.g. Apple Maps, Sony removing functionality from the ps4). At that point I feel justified in becoming a "hater" of that company. Going forward I lean towards skepticism of the company and put the onus on them to win me back. Maybe I'm crazy but this feels perfectly reasonable.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by DonHopkins on Thursday February 18, 2016 @04:45PM (#11129568)
Yeah, there's Bad, and there's Apple Maps Bad. [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVq1wgIN62E

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by givinguflac on Friday February 19, 2016 @08:50AM (#11133403)
It was really bad at launch, but I find it better than google maps for navigation, though still trailing a bit on specific POI searches.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by freehunter on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:01AM (#11133783)
I really don't understand how Apple Maps, no matter how bad it was, could make someone hate the company. Removing functionality from hardware/software you already purchased, yeah that's pretty bad. Releasing a new app that isn't as good as the competitor's app... so what? Who cares? Just use the far superior and still available Google Maps like you were yesterday. It has literally zero bearing on your life. If you hated every company that put out a crappy app or buggy 1.0 release, you'd be a very angry person indeed.

Remember Google Reader? Google+? Wave? Buzz? Every company puts out shitty apps now and again.

Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by rnernento on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:07AM (#11133817)
Except Apple Maps pushed out Google Maps on the phone which can no longer function with Siri. The only thing I found Siri useful for was asking directions while driving. Once Apple Maps took over those directions started taking me places I didn't want to go so essentially the Apple Maps release removed functionality from my phone.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by chasb on Friday February 19, 2016 @12:42AM (#11131834)
Dude, his post was "I CHANGED MY MIND"
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by na85 on Thursday February 18, 2016 @06:17PM (#11130169)
Holy self-righteousness, Batman.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by SmellyGeekBoy on Friday February 19, 2016 @05:52AM (#11132783)
Better to be a lover of all things technology than to potentially miss out on the good things all these companies have to offer by arbitrarily picking sides.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by knd775 on Thursday February 18, 2016 @05:07PM (#11129709)
Off-topic, but any relation to the runescape legend Zezima?
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by nothrabannosir on Friday February 19, 2016 @03:48AM (#11132403)
Ironically, this post only describes itself. Not the one it is addressed to.
Re:Apple Apologizes and Updates iOS to Restore iPhones Disab... by thefrog on Thursday February 18, 2016 @04:15PM (#11129379)
Precisely correct and more eloquent than my own thoughts on the matter. Thank you for being more civil than I. :)