Re:Scientists can’t agree whether salt is killing us
by readams on Thursday February 18, 2016 @01:47PM
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This is falling prey to the naturalistic fallacy, which is the belief that because something is "natural" that is is therefore the best. Cooking food, for example makes it much easier to digest and more nutrient rich, but is cooking food natural? Remember that the most "natural" state involves dying to any number of diseases, malnutrition, or predation.
The heuristic of "the less natural the worse it is" is not a very good one.
Re:Scientists can’t agree whether salt is killing us
by blacksmith_tb on Thursday February 18, 2016 @01:01PM
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This seems like a fairly extreme interpretation of 'processing' - I haven't seen anything that suggests there's a nutritional difference between steel cut, rolled, or quick oats. Human beings have 'processed' their foods along these lines for more than 10,000 years, as opposed to say, making Twinkies.
Re:Scientists can’t agree whether salt is killing us
by undersuit on Thursday February 18, 2016 @01:33PM
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There is a very big nutritional difference between steel cut and rolled oats compared to quick oats. The bran is removed in quick oats.
Re:Scientists can’t agree whether salt is killing us
by retbull on Thursday February 18, 2016 @01:13PM
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I think in the oats case not much happens nutritionally until it gets to the cheeri o's stage of processing. The only thing I could think of that steal cut might do is remove some of the fiber when the shell falls off.
Re:Scientists can’t agree whether salt is killing us
by debacle on Thursday February 18, 2016 @01:46PM
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> If you have to revert to fruit rollups? Probably went too far.
Potentially a misconception, as well. While modern Fruit Roll-ups are very processed, fruit leather is basically just ground up fruit paste that's been dried. Way more calories by weight than real fruit, but essentially no different.
Take some Oats off the ground. Cool unprocessed. Mill it a tiny bit to help it cook more easily into steel cut oats. Minimally processed. Grind it down into instant oatmeal - Heavily processes. Add some chemicals and put in a test tube to turn into some weird kind of artificial sweetener? Highly processed.
I try to go as low on the chain as possible, without killing myself. I don't enjoy eating oats right off the ground, or boiled as is (unsure if we can even digest raw oats, never tried). Steel cut I do enjoy - so I stop there.
So back to fruit. If you can get fresh fruit great. If not, frozen is pretty close. If you have to revert to fruit rollups? Probably went too far.
* There is a debate that frozen fruits can actually be better than frush fruit, as fresh fruit is picked unripe and ripened in a truck - whereas frozen fruit can be picked when fully ripe. In this case, the slightly processed fruit may end up being better than the unprocessed fruit. Overall though this is the exception, for 99% of food - the more you do to it the more you lose.