Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by joshmanders on Thursday February 18, 2016 @09:10AM
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FWIW those of us in the JavaScript community who don't care to create buzzwords for everything call it JavaScript. No Isomorphic, no Universal. There's nothing different. It's just JavaScript.
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by ohitsdom on Thursday February 18, 2016 @10:40AM
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> There's nothing different.
It's still JavaScript, but how you design/write it is fundamentally different when you're writing for both the client and server.
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by joshmanders on Sunday February 21, 2016 @08:58AM
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No the libraries you use are different.
On the client you wouldn't use `fs` module, but on the server you wouldn't use jQuery unless you were manipulating the dom through scraping with Cheerios.
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by patates on Thursday February 18, 2016 @05:00AM
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Many people still don't agree, neither do I. There's no doubt that the term "universal" is more correct, however, languages don't work that way. In the JS land isomorphic has a very specific meaning. Universal is a flexible word. "A universal api for observables" means something (works across libraries), "An isomorphic api for observables" means something else (works across environments) .
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by goldbrick on Thursday February 18, 2016 @10:05AM
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FWIW no it wasn't. Everyone (everyone who javascripts anyways) already knows what "isomorphic javascript" means, and "Universal" is a fucking terrible name for what it is being applied to (it sounds like it is translated into all languages, or runs equally on Windows and Macs, or who knows, it's made for aliens or something).
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by Touche on Thursday February 18, 2016 @08:25AM
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Universal JavaScript is incorrect. There are more JS runtimes than Node and the Browser. Does React run in Postgres? In Duktape?
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by prank7 on Thursday February 18, 2016 @06:49AM
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Lets not get caught in 'war of words'. There is no standard to it and I don't think it matters as long as you understand what it means.
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by egwynn on Thursday February 18, 2016 @08:36AM
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> There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things.
> -- Phil Karlton
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by cjslep on Thursday February 18, 2016 @11:12AM
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I like the self referential version:
"There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors."
Re:Mern: Build JavaScript apps using React and Redux
by tajen on Thursday February 18, 2016 @03:13PM
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> as long as you understand what it means.
Isn't the whole effect of litterary words to be specific but exclusive?
Edit: At the very least Dan Abramov (Redux creator) is ok with universal [2]
[1] https://medium.com/@mjackson/universal-javascript-4761051b7a...
[2] https://github.com/gaearon/react-redux-universal-hot-example