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Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by Klathmon on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @08:06AM (#11072436)
IMO this would only be an issue if they advertised that it was overclockable.

If it was advertised with no ability to overclock, you should assume it can't overclock and if you are able, don't assume it will work or will stick around forever.

Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by brillenfux on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @08:22AM (#11072525)
There was a time when I bought something I owned it and could do anything I wanted with it. That time is clearly gone.
Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by Tepix on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @08:34AM (#11072575)
No one is forcing you to install the BIOS update.
Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by Retric on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @08:39AM (#11072595)
I have been 'required' to install BIOS updates before. PS3 lost capability's at one point in an update and new games forced that update without mentioning it on the packaging.

"Note that Intel paired this with a bug fix for the freezing during Prime95 - if you want the bug fix, you have to let them lock down your clock. "

Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by Tepix on Friday February 12, 2016 @06:50AM (#11086599)
You are using an undocumented feature of the CPU, from Intel's point of view it's an unintended loophole.

Also you can try to separate the Prime95 bugfix from the clock lockdown. Good luck :-)

Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by jsheard on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @08:41AM (#11072607)
They could theoretically push the microcode out via Windows Update as well, which combined with Win10s enforced updates would make it difficult to avoid.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3064209

Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by Tepix on Friday February 12, 2016 @06:48AM (#11086595)
That's nasty - but isn't Microsoft to blame there?
Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by gcb0 on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @11:08AM (#11073619)
upgrading the OS, which you are required for security reasons, will also upgrade the micro code. in fact, i don't remember the bios ever being relevant for that
Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by gcb0 on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @10:09PM (#11077991)
to the geniuses downvoting... don't even know why i bother:

"While microcode can be updated through the BIOS, the Linux kernel is also able to apply these updates during boot."

-- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/microcode

now, do you update your kernel more or less often than the BIOS?

Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by brillenfux on Thursday February 11, 2016 @12:23AM (#11078389)
It's best to develop a decent level of ignorance when it comes to social media dynamics :)
Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by qb45 on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @11:24AM (#11073764)
> don't assume it will work or will stick around forever.

I agree with the first part, but no with the second. I don't like manufacturers deliberately breaking products which have already been sold, especially in cases when the sale wouldn't have happened if the product weren't better than specified.

Today it's Intel removing not advertised features, tomorrow it'll be Sony removing advertised ones (or had they already done that?)

Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by dtparr on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @11:37AM (#11073887)
Are you referencing the PS3 forcing the option to either keep the ability to run linux or stay on the PSN, or was there something else?
Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by qb45 on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @12:57PM (#11074528)
Yes, I meant Linux on PS3.
Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by lmm on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @11:32AM (#11073833)
What if you went by a third-party review? IMO it should be illegal to remove functionality without changing the model number.
Re:Intel to shut down renegade Skylake overclocking with mic... by rasz_pl on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @10:59AM (#11073551)
nah, they advertised Pentium G3258 as overclockable and later killed OC with microcode (on non Z boards)