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Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by piyush_soni on Monday February 08, 2016 @09:16PM (#11062579)
But no software even close to Visual Studio, that's the point.
Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by pswenson on Monday February 08, 2016 @09:41PM (#11062702)
what?

jetbrains.com (intellij, appcode, pycharm,webstorm, rubymine etc)

sublime text atom vim emacs eclipse

Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by piyush_soni on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @01:30AM (#11063530)
Not even close to Visual Studio on Windows, that's the point (I know I'm repeating, but it's sad that I'm having to do that).
Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by vetinari on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @06:30AM (#11064614)
Intellij eats Visual Studio for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Twice. Every day.

To make VS somewhat usable, you need Resharper - made by the company, that makes Intellij.

Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by pswenson on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @09:03AM (#11072735)
Intellij is amazing. Note that jetbrains built resharper to de-suckify Visual Studio. And many of the refactorings that we all take for granted were invented by Jetbrains.
Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by koide on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @11:49AM (#11066611)
Intellij is fairly close as an IDE to Visual Studio on Windows. It's sad you are not seeing it.

And that without mentioning ReSharper which enhances VS quite a bit.

Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by rayiner on Monday February 08, 2016 @09:30PM (#11062662)
Quite a few people would respond to that by saying:

> There are like nine different versions of Emacs for OS X...

Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by madeofpalk on Monday February 08, 2016 @10:27PM (#11062853)
Is there anyone preventing anyone from making something 'close to Visual Studio' though?

I don't think Apple is blocking that. If you're looking for something for iOS/Mac dev, all the build tools are available as command-line interfaces.

Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by piyush_soni on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @01:33AM (#11063537)
No one is stopping 'in theory', but may be because there's no IDE close enough to Visual Studio for making something close enough to Visual Studio stopping people? ;)
Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by sirmiller on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @04:35AM (#11064205)
Tried to buy a Visual Studio license for porting our game to Windows Phone last year. Ended up paying $2K for a version that was able to build WP apps, but not allowed to release them.

VS + VA used to be fantastic, today it's just a piece of ... overpriced crap.

But maybe expecting more from $2K+ software (VS) than from FREE software (xcode) is wrong.

Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by piyush_soni on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @05:30AM (#11064428)
Not sure what you are talking about. Visual Studio Express allows Windows phone development for free. Of course, for releasing they charge money (much lesser than what Apple charges).