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Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by Disruptive_Dave on Saturday February 06, 2016 @03:21PM (#11049626)
I've always been profoundly confused by people/groups who choose to fight racism with racism. I'm not quite sure that's the best corrective path for this problem. But everyone lets it slide, at least here in the US. Are we just scared?
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by slavik81 on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:26PM (#11049963)
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster."

It's an inherent problem that as you fight something, you tend to mirror it. You almost have to do so in order to be effective. The problem is that at some point, it just feeds the cycle.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by seivan on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:48PM (#11050089)
God damn, that is painfully true to the point of nausea.

I am at fault for that, and have been trying to stop recently.

It's funny how we (I) is okay with using old wisdom when it comes to engineering, but dismiss quotes like that even though it comes with significant experience across generation and culture. Chalk it up to young and (incredibly) stupid

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by chillacy on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:29PM (#11050269)
I've also found this to be true. It's horseshoe theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by alphapapa on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:38PM (#11050321)
MLK, Jr. didn't mirror it, nor did he need to.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by slavik81 on Sunday February 07, 2016 @04:39AM (#11052323)
I'm sure he did in some ways, but certainly not in the ways that matter to me. I have tremendous respect for MLK and his work is a stunning example of what's possible. The warning would be somewhat pointless if becoming a monster were inevitable.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by douche on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:42PM (#11050347)
He also got assassinated before he had the opportunity. He could have been Ghandi, or he could have been Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by alphapapa on Saturday February 06, 2016 @06:22PM (#11050522)
Wow.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by omegaham on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:14PM (#11050198)
Personally, it's because it's not worth my time. Why should I have any sort of dialogue with such people when it's not going to be productive and will provoke a massive amount of vitriol? At best, it's unproductive, and at worst it's career-ruining.

I think that most people think the same way, and as a result there are absolutely no consequences when the activists go from "challenging" to "outright hateful."

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by elcritch on Sunday February 07, 2016 @02:31AM (#11052072)
This is one reason I am inspired by reading about Nelson Mandela. He fought for both equality and forgiveness of his former oppressors. Once apartheid ended in South Africa he fought against the desire from many of the former oppressed to extract revenge. An early example:

"During my lifetime I have dedicated myself to this struggle of the African people. I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die." ~ Nelson Mandela [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Prepared_to_Die]

IMHO, this position is more philosophically consistent than what many circles in American academia espouse. As I recall, Mr Mandela had to fight a lot of over-zealous activists in his own party who wanted to implement punishment or retribution to the white apartheid supporters. Though it cost him greatly in terms of discontent and difficulty but stands to me as an example. But it's been widely acclaimed after the fact.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by powertower on Saturday February 06, 2016 @03:24PM (#11049639)
They are not fighting racism, they are creating it.