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Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by blakesterz on Thursday February 04, 2016 @09:15PM (#11038940)
I wonder how many places will report this with the headline: "Study finds majority of all cancers are not preventable"

I can't tell exactly what this does mean... does it really mean most cancers are just not preventable? If 45% are preventable, then are the rest NOT? The risks [0] are pretty obvious. The "Other Risks" [1] are rather interesting though.

[0] http://albertapreventscancer.ca/reduce-your-risk/

[1]http://albertapreventscancer.ca/reduce-your-risk/other-risks...

Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by chrisamiller on Thursday February 04, 2016 @11:01PM (#11039312)
Many cancers really aren't avoidable, as there's a spectrum of causes. The mutations that cause cancer can come from many sources - carcinogen exposure, UV light/radiation, inherited defects, or unavoidable errors that occur when cells divide (on average, around 3 errors per cell division).

Getting cancer is a lot like playing the lottery (or perhaps more accurately, Russian Roulette). It requires an accumulation of mutations in two or more key genes, and these mutations occur more or less randomly throughout the genome, regardless of cause. So maybe your first hit happens from a chest X-ray, and the second hit comes from smoking. Or maybe you just get old and the replication errors pile up in blood stem cells, giving you leukemia.

The point is that it's all probablistic, and that's why some smokers live to be 100 cancer-free, and some health-nut marathoners get cancer. In general, though, these external factors can bend the odds one way or the other.

Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by erkkie on Friday February 05, 2016 @10:38AM (#11042068)
While still (probably) probabilistic to a large extent, specially concerning environmental exposure, there's more acceptance recently into cancer having a metabolic component, many cancer and metabolic related pathways cross (eg fasting/insulin/igf-1). So it's not necessarily just lottery, or rather, we still don't know how large of an factor the lottery part actually is.
Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by saiya-jin on Friday February 05, 2016 @04:54AM (#11040509)
very well said, this can be copied to all those articles about food causing/not causing cancers that seem to pop up recently. not much more is needed to know on this topic
Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by teekert on Friday February 05, 2016 @01:08AM (#11039837)
Just one example: About 12 percent of women in the general population will develop breast cancer sometime during their lives. By contrast, according to the most recent estimates, 55 to 65 percent of women who inherit a harmful BRCA1 mutation and around 45 percent of women who inherit a harmful BRCA2 mutation will develop breast cancer by age 70 years. These estimations are a bit in flux, I've heard much higher ones in the past.

(http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/genetic...)

Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by bhouston on Friday February 05, 2016 @01:18AM (#11039867)
> If 45% are preventable, then are the rest NOT?

We will find out more causes of cancer as time goes on. And then more will be preventable. I am sure that environmental pollution causes are a big one that isn't included in this report -- and also various chemicals we encounter in our daily lives (soaps, etc) are likely contributing to cancer as well.

Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by sliverstorm on Friday February 05, 2016 @01:24AM (#11039898)
Ordinary soap? That seems like a stretch.
Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by bhouston on Friday February 05, 2016 @02:05AM (#11040039)
There are a ton of additives that have been in soaps and shampoo that can cause cancer...

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/cancer-dangerous-chem...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/285641.php

http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/breast-cancer-fears...

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/su...

And I am sure that over time there will be more things in our environments that we are regularly exposed to that will be identified as cancer causing, although it is hard to predict which ones.

Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by skylan_q on Thursday February 04, 2016 @09:19PM (#11038960)
How about the notion that we've figured out all the causal links/factors for the different kinds of cancer?
Re:Study finds almost half of all cancers linked to preventa... by ktRolster on Friday February 05, 2016 @01:13AM (#11039848)
>does it really mean most cancers are just not preventable?

It really makes me want to go eat some bacon and cheetos.