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Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by tim333 on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @07:18PM (#11023825)
I'd add I know several people with long term mental impairment from overuse, mostly from long term use of LSD. So while it's interesting to try, be cautious.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by cnp on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @07:40PM (#11023922)
Here's an interesting study that seems to counter this claim: http://psychedelicfrontier.com/psychedelics-reductions-suici...

http://jop.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/01/08/026988111456...

Classic psychedelic use is associated with reduced psychological distress and suicidality in the United States adult population

"Psychedelic users showed a significantly lower likelihood of recent psychological distress, as well as less suicidal thinking and fewer suicide attempts, than non-users. Users were 36% less likely to have attempted suicide in the past year.

Use of other illicit substances, say the researchers, are “by and large associated with an increased likelihood of psychological distress and suicidality.” The use of non-psychedelic substances is a suicide risk factor, they conclude, but psychedelics appear to have the reverse effect."

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by hguant on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @07:53PM (#11023980)
An article from the psychedelic frontier talking about a paper published in low impact journal (Impact Factor of slightly more than three) does not seem like an unbiased source.

To be fair, I'm hardly an unbiased source, as a good friend of mine jumped out a window an hour or so after taking a rather large dose of LSD.

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by eip on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @01:04PM (#11028175)
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by biafra on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @09:44AM (#11026658)
Did he jump out of the window because he wanted to end his life, or because he thought he could fly?
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by kaitai on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @10:42AM (#11027013)
One of those cases where it's not really the thought that counts in the end, either way.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by elif on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @07:54PM (#11023982)
Clinical studies at the population level will not provide substantial evidence for or against any purported effects of individual overuse. Anecdotally, acid brain sure seems real to me. Whether it is a physiological change or merely the ideological ramification of repeatedly obliterating fundamental notions like permanence or selfness, I don't know.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by dilap on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @09:45PM (#11024437)
Ultimately all changes are recorded physically, so I'm not really sure the distinction has that much meaning.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by brudgers on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @10:54PM (#11024636)
The claim is that the individual has direct knowledge. The study doesn't counter their personal experience.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by wheatbin on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @05:26AM (#11025736)
Around 20 years ago three friends of mine had bad acid trips around the same time. One of them was rushed into emergency, strapped down on the stretcher. He was crying out for Jesus to save him (he was not religious). Since then he cannot hold down a thought, never mind a job. He lives with his parents.

My other two friends went high to a houseparty and committed suicide by shooting themselves in the head. It was all over the national news.

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by triplesec on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @06:47AM (#11025945)
new account, no support for these claims. This is not what most people oberve with psychedelics
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by wheatbin on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @11:04AM (#11027194)
The double suicide happened about 1986-1988 in Brantford Ontario. The Toronto Sun called it a "Death Party". It made the front page. I searched but my Google fu has failed me (or the news was never archived online in the first place).

I'm not going to share the name of the other friend, for obvious privacy reasons.

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by triplesec on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @03:58PM (#11068695)
OK fair enough, yet one example, and news media are the worst at accuracy about drugs.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by revscat on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @07:21PM (#11023850)
Then you should get those people in touch with the appropriate researchers. They are anomalies.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by tim333 on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @07:58PM (#11024007)
Well one of them killed himself after hallucinating people coming through the walls to get him so it would be tricky in that case. Here are some famous acid casualties http://www.wow247.co.uk/2015/07/17/bad-trip-brian-wilson-aci...

I don't think there's much in the way of peer reviewed papers because no ones going to deliberately dose one group on LSD for a long term study and most recreational users take other drugs and don't document and publish things but there are definitely issues.

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by abrookewood on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @09:10PM (#11024275)
I don't know why you are getting downvoted. I've personally seen several people suffer various ailments (cutting social ties; entering depression) after experimenting with psychedelics. They can be fun and they may be a useful therapy, but it's foolish to think they are risk-free.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by gluelogic on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @08:33PM (#11024152)
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by marincounty on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @08:00PM (#11024023)
I know a woman who was a junior at Dartmouth. She came home for Christmas. She went to a concert with friends. She allegedly took LSD.

She woke up the next day, and didn't recognize her parents. She didn't recognize her boyfriend whom came running over.

She finished her degree 25 years later, and she still has trouble functioning in society. She never got back to that high functioning individual. She's still very smart. She can't wake up early. Can't function in a unfamiliar work setting. She basically falls to pieces if slightly stressed. She would be homeless if not for a caring/understanding financially well off family

(This is a true story. She might have had an underlying mental illness, but mental illness is not in her lineage. I'm just passing this story along.)

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by coldtea on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @09:10PM (#11024277)
>This is a true story

Not very reliable, as this is also what old wives tales and urban legends claim too ("I know this guy/gal that...").

In this case for example, you might really know that woman, and she might have been a junior at Dartmouth that had those issues, but unless you were there with her that day, there's no way to know whether she did take LSD that night (or something else, or even nothing), or whether she didn't have any issues before, etc. It could just be some rumor people tell about here, or what she wanted other people to know about it (e.g. not to admit a mental illness but instead cover it with "had bad acid").

Let's rather stick to the medical literature that describes several cases of LSD use, how it affected or brought up psychosis, etc (and after what frequence of use, and with what mental issues the patient had before, etc).

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by ap22213 on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @08:48PM (#11024209)
One of the biggest issues with illicit drugs is that you never know what you're getting. There's no quality control. Even your usual dealer may not know what they have. There are people that I know who won't eat beef unless they see the farm and cow beforehand, but yet they'll gladly ingest whatever chemical is given to them.

(That said, I've personally never heard of anyone who'd been severely damaged by drugs... well, except for heroin, alcohol, and cocaine. Six of my childhood friends had died of heroin, two from alcohol, and one from cocaine. Heroin is the scourge of the working poor.)

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by abrookewood on Tuesday February 02, 2016 @09:13PM (#11024291)
Even if you can source drugs legally, people need to recognise that psychedelics can trigger underlying conditions. They're not risk free.
Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by GordonS on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @06:11AM (#11025850)
If you are buying 'raw' ingredients, such as mushrooms or marijuana, there is a much better chance of getting what you expect.

Of course, it's not guarenteed (they could for example be sprayed with another substance), but even in terms of economics for the dealer, it probably wouldn't make sense to try to adulterate such things. Adulteration is much more prevelant when dealing with relatively expensive, highly processed drugs, where there are many levels of people in the supply chain; the temptation to cut it to increase margins is just too high.

Re:LSD: My Life-Saving Drug by pc86 on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @07:15AM (#11026036)
> This is a true story.

It almost certainly isn't. Do you have even a single reputable source? I mean, especially if you know her personally as you claim it should be pretty easy to pull up some news articles or something, right?