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Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by jeena on Monday February 01, 2016 @12:56PM (#11013601)
I often have the situation that I asked someone something, then the next day, or next month I have the same problem again and want to search for that one link or answer without bothering everyone again. That is not possible with IRC (yet?)
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by wstrange on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:17PM (#11013840)
Practically speaking, Slack does not do this either.

Most open source projects can not pay for the archiving feature - so messages are deleted and gone forever.

Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by s_kilk on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:51PM (#11014232)
Yup, we're facing this problem right now in the Clojurians group, where there's usually less than 24 hours worth of history before it disappears.
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by solipsism on Monday February 01, 2016 @02:27PM (#11014631)
so messages are deleted and gone forever

They aren't deleted and gone forever. They're simply not searchable. If at some future point you decide to pay, your entire history is made available to you.

I realize that doesn't help projects who will never want or be able to pay, but it's an important point for those who might.

Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by dwc on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:08PM (#11013745)
Turning on logging in most IRC clients is very easy. But once again this is an extra step and means learning the client a bit. One nice thing is that I can have those logs offline and search them whenever and however I like. I regularly do search my irc logs to find that links I didn't save, or re-read an important discussion.

Most things in slack are available in some form with irc, but not preconfigured out of the box. And some things on irc can take some fiddling to get set up right, and you can't count on everyone else to have enabled support.

Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by jeena on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:22PM (#11013911)
Thing is, I use Xchat at work, on my Phone a native Sailfish OS IRC client, om my Android AndChat, on my iMac Textual and on my laptop a different instance of Xchat. And in between those clients are offline so they can't get continuous logs which they could save for offline search.

But I would love to learn how to do that, for example with ZNC which is online all the time.

Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by kuschku on Monday February 01, 2016 @05:36PM (#11016171)
Well, maybe try Quassel?

That logs the logs in an SQL database, you can search with Quassel-Suche (a web-based search engine for quassel backends), and we have clients for Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS (kinda) and Android (with a better Android client in beta) and a webclient.

You get contiguous logs like in Slack, Push Notifications (with the Android beta, soon), and you can search through your logs.

In fact, I don’t bookmark things in my browser anymore – I send them in a query to myself, and just use quassel-suche half a year later to find them, or, if there hasn’t been much activity in the channel, just scroll up (infinite scroll to load more logs).

Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by jeena on Monday February 01, 2016 @08:32PM (#11017132)
Nice, I will check it out :)
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by dwc on Monday February 01, 2016 @02:23PM (#11014568)
Almost everyone I work with uses ZNC. I've stuck with my same old method of tmux/screen and a text mode client. Apparently ZNC isn't hard to set up or use but I have no direct experience with it.
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by bzbarsky on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:07PM (#11013736)
Mozilla solves this by having logs for the developer IRC channels by just having a bot that puts up the logs on a web server. E.g. see http://logs.glob.uno/?c=developers
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by jeena on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:24PM (#11013924)
Yes some of the chanels I use do that, but most of them don't.
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by darkr on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:31PM (#11014004)
Many channels have a logging bot which pushes logs to a publicly accessible archive.

There's also services like https://botbot.me that offer easy setup of this

Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by exelius on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:12PM (#11013783)
Just set up an IRC log bot to log all channel traffic to a web site (can't be bothered to look one up; but I know they existed when I last messed with IRC 20 years ago).
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by jeena on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:26PM (#11013950)
I am using ZNC but it's not obvious how to make it to log everything and make it searchable.
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by babatong on Monday February 01, 2016 @03:43PM (#11015242)
How on earth could it get more obvious to tick the tickbox labelled 'log'?

How you search the created logfiles is up to you, znc is not a log management system, it merely creates.

Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by jeena on Monday February 01, 2016 @05:06PM (#11015926)
Uhm, ZNC runs on the console, there can not be a "tickbox labeled 'log'" because there is no GUI?
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by PuercoPop on Monday February 01, 2016 @09:50PM (#11017376)
znc comes with an web GUI to admin/configure it.
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by WizzleKake on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:02PM (#11013687)
IRC clients can log.
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by zyxley on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:03PM (#11013702)
And if the person who wants to refer to something was offline at the time...?
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by TeMPOraL on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:07PM (#11013739)
Then you set up a bot that logs on channel (there are even dedicated services for that). Or use a client on a remote server to which you then connect (e.g. weechat).
Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by jeena on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:30PM (#11013987)
It works mostly like this: I have a problem, let's say with QML, I log into their IRC server, ask the question and it is fixed. Then I don't work with QML for a month or two, then I remember that during the session two months ago they also linked to some cool tool but I can't find the link anymore (for example), I would like to be able to go back there and just search for my conversation. In the meantime I wasn't in that chanel or logged in into that server.

But perhaps I'm wanting too much from a chat system.

Re:Please don't use Slack for FOSS projects by zyxley on Monday February 01, 2016 @01:03PM (#11013700)
And if the person who wants to refer to something was offline at the time...?