Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift

Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by ceeK on Saturday January 30, 2016 @10:03AM (#11002018)

First of all, it looks great, so well done for that! It's fantastic to actually make it to the release stage.

That said, I'm a big fan of adopting the best design paradigm for the platform. If I was building an Android app, material design would be the go to. Why? Well, Android users have already used it. The cognitive burden to how things feel and work has been removed, letting your users feel familiar with the app from the get go.

Similarly, with iOS, closely following their human interface guidelines will produce the best results for allowing iOS users to immediately feel at home in your app. This sentiment is mimicked in the WWDC2014 video Designing Intuitive User Experiences.

For this reason, I'd personally tend to shy away from trying to port design principles to other platforms. It sure looks nice, but is it worth it?

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by ryanmonroe on Saturday January 30, 2016 @10:36AM (#11002183)

I can't comment on whether it's the best for the platform, but I don't think there's much of a cognitive burden placed on iOS users by material design. A whole lot of iOS users use the Google Maps and Youtube apps, and many also use Gmail/Inbox for email, and Chrome as a browser. My Grandmom uses Google Maps and has never had to ask me any questions about how to do things with it.

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by andrewingram on Saturday January 30, 2016 @02:13PM (#11003255)

Honestly it bothers me every time I use a Google app on my iPhone. Because it feels like they've willingly sacrificed a uniform platform experience to push their own brand. Now I can't comment on the quality of the app itself, but consider what Apple did with the UI for the Apple Music app for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.andr...

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by vetinari on Saturday January 30, 2016 @04:47PM (#11003906)

For years Android users complained, that when apps were originally introduced on iOS and later brought to Android, they were looking like iOS apps. I guess that Google realized in the end, that it works both ways.

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by Larrikin on Saturday January 30, 2016 @05:32PM (#11004113)

I instant uninstall any apps from my Android phone if it looks like an iOS app.

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by paulddraper on Sunday January 31, 2016 @11:13AM (#11006787)

I instantly uninstall the apps don't work.

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by mgkimsal on Saturday January 30, 2016 @05:03PM (#11003988)

> they've willingly sacrificed a uniform platform experience to push their own brand.

What if you consider the 'platform' google? They've not 'sacrificed', they kept it consistent. No?

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by andrewingram on Saturday January 30, 2016 @05:43PM (#11004155)

It's not a huge leap compared to a lot of mental gymnastics. But I don't find it to be a particularly compelling argument.

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by georgemcbay on Saturday January 30, 2016 @03:16PM (#11003542)

I agree it isn't really any extra cognitive burden. I've yet to meet anyone capable of using any touchscreen UI who wouldn't be able to seamlessly switch between iOS/Android UIs. The amount of cognitive burden required for using ANY new app is far greater than the tiny bit of extra that may be added due to switching between app UI styles, IMO.

Having said that, and speaking as an Android user/developer, I am always annoyed when an Android app I am using is very clearly an iOS port and still retains the iOS look & feel. This annoyance isn't coming from added cognitive burden or a fanboy-type perspective but probably from a design perfectionist/hipster perspective.

It just seems.... rude, I guess, to not follow the local cultural norms (though I do get why it is done for expediency).

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by aclissold on Saturday January 30, 2016 @11:12AM (#11002359)

Have you looked at the YouTube reviews on the iOS App Store? They're exceptionally horrible for what really is an A-grade app! I don't know for sure, by my assumption is it's mostly because of material design, but subconsciously to those writing reviews. The average basically plummeted the instant they updated the design.

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Re:Material, a Graphics Framework for Material Design in Swift by tdkl on Saturday January 30, 2016 @11:44AM (#11002523)

The problem with YouTube redesign is that it wastes a huge amount of space considering there are a lot of users rocking 4" iPhones. Basically a third of the screen is the top bars.

They also blown up the huge thumbnails for videos, so you can basically see 2 and half videos on the screen, compared to a much denser list before.

Not to mention the information density on the tablet : http://a3.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/37/3f/0d/373f0d5d-...

Material design can be pretty nice, but not with horrible wasting of space where Google went completely overboard. This is BAD.

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