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Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by bilbo0s on Thursday January 28, 2016 @10:56AM (#10988895)
I'll be honest with you... Chicago is very much a place where you take your chances.

You can live in Streeterville for example, as rayiner alluded to in another post... but what happens when you go out with friends??? What if they want to go someplace in say... Wrigleyville... some night??? You're walking back to your car, or trying to get a taxi back to the loop, and you cross too close in front of a police officer, or his vehicle. (Basically, the same thing that bbarn was talking about in his post.) Even though it's completely inadvertent, and done with no ill intent, I've seen this very thing go decidedly bad for people in the past. It seems that it didn't go too well for bbarn either.

So if you're asking for guarantees... I think that reasonable people will concede that there are none.

The best advice is to be aware of your surroundings, and be aware that police are extremely dangerous and best avoided. Just do the common sense kind of things... allow police the path if you see them walking on the sidewalk. Don't look directly at an officer. When approached by a police officer, be extremely deferential. And for goodness sake, if you see police abusing power don't try to intercede. Don't let them see you recording or videoing the incident. When you have an opportunity later... just write an anonymous letter to a newspaper with the video or something. Etc etc etc.

Also... not trying to be even more of a dark cloud here, but I think a word of warning is appropriate on this particular point... if you are black and male, and assuming you are professional as you are a hacker news reader... I'm not entirely certain any of this will work for you in any case.

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by finid on Thursday January 28, 2016 @11:28AM (#10989110)
If it's that bad in Chicago, then what you have is not a police force, but a criminal organization.

Who's overseeing them? Are your elected officials powerless to do any thing?

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by mbesto on Thursday January 28, 2016 @11:49AM (#10989290)
Heh, the elected officials are exactly the problem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_history_of_Chicago#C...

I grew up in Chicago, my family is still there, and most of my colleagues are based there. There is weird pseudo-Stockholm syndrome phenomenon where people just accept that the corruption is widespread and unavoidable.

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by logfromblammo on Thursday January 28, 2016 @02:24PM (#10990522)
Basically, it's all Gotham and no Batman.
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by bbradley406 on Thursday January 28, 2016 @10:58PM (#10993387)
Any chance this contributed to the Dark Knight being filmed there? Choosing Chicago for the cityscape makes sense by itself but the film focused heavily on corruption.

I found a nice breakdown of scene / real locations while looking into this: http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/d/DarkKnight.html

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by trhway on Thursday January 28, 2016 @08:49PM (#10992969)
when i visited Chicago, it was felt like it is a matter of local pride when journalist on radio was telling something about corruption in the school district. Like "look how big! how brazen it is! we can do corruption like the best out there!"... pretty much like Jon Stewart in that bit about New Jersey corruption.
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by jMyles on Thursday January 28, 2016 @12:08PM (#10989442)
> then what you have is not a police force, but a criminal organization.

This is the only reasonable conclusion, and it's neither new nor particularly controversial. The real question is: what to do about it?

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by toomuchtodo on Thursday January 28, 2016 @01:05PM (#10989938)
Leave. Frictionless and painless. (I left Chicago after living there for ~2 decades)
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by logfromblammo on Thursday January 28, 2016 @02:48PM (#10990686)
I left after only 2.5 years. I didn't even have any watershed experiences. I just eventually heeded the voice in my head that whispered "get out of here" on a regular basis.

So I left, and I didn't exactly stop hearing that voice, but at least it said "this is pathetic" instead.

It didn't shut up entirely until I moved again.

I can barely even stand to drive around Chicago on the tristate tollway now.

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by jMyles on Friday January 29, 2016 @12:30AM (#10993679)
> Frictionless and painless.

I can't imagine this is true.

What if you are flat broke? What if you have an elderly dependent in a nearby nursing home? A relative in a nearby prison? A child in the local schools?

It might be easy for some, but not for all.

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by shitgoose on Thursday January 28, 2016 @12:28PM (#10989624)
bend
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by shitgoose on Thursday January 28, 2016 @03:14PM (#10990916)
to all the downvoters - you prefer being shot?
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by finid on Thursday January 28, 2016 @03:30PM (#10991048)
Perhaps they'll rather stand up to bullies, criminals and injustice, rather than say, "how low", when asked to "bend" by a bully.
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by shitgoose on Thursday January 28, 2016 @03:35PM (#10991079)
"bullies, criminals and injustice" are the police. this whole rather depressing discussion is dedicated to the consequences of standing up to police. again, your choice is simple - bend or be shot.
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by shitgoose on Thursday January 28, 2016 @03:48PM (#10991183)
here is another "self-defense" by Toronto police:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx2iQnYMQfM

first 3 bullets in the chest, then 6 in already dead body, then taser the corpse. policemen successfully argued self-defense and was charged with attempted (???) murder. the only reason why this made to trial, was because video was released to public. otherwise he would have walked.

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by rorykoehler on Friday January 29, 2016 @02:05AM (#10993932)
I thought they were supposed to use a taser first and live fire as a last resort? What in the world were they thinking? The guy is clearly not conscious/possibly already dead and then they taser him?
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by garthk on Friday January 29, 2016 @03:50PM (#10998388)
This is going to look bad. I'd better tase the corpse so I can claim I tried non-lethal means first, but the guy was unstoppable and I had to kill him.
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by ViViDboarder on Friday January 29, 2016 @12:41PM (#10996843)
Chicago is notorious for organized crime.
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by gambiting on Thursday January 28, 2016 @12:25PM (#10989604)
It sounds exactly like Russia to me. Same level or corruption and danger to regular citizens.
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by hvis on Thursday January 28, 2016 @03:11PM (#10990867)
It may be different in the more rural regions of Russia, but I'm from Saint-Petersburg, and I've never seen anything similar to a police officer go "in 7-11's, local shops, etc, just walk in, take what the want, and leave". They're usually civil, and sometimes helpful (you can ask directions, etc).

There is corruption here, but it seems to be more prevalent among the civil cervants and the higher ranking police officials.

Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by rorykoehler on Thursday January 28, 2016 @12:55PM (#10989859)
I've always found vast similarities between the USA and Russia but it seems to bring on deep offence if you mention it to an average American.
Re:Chicago Police Hid Mics, Destroyed Dashcams to Block Audi... by vectorjohn on Thursday January 28, 2016 @05:34PM (#10991984)
Probably because Chicago is not America.