Google Pixel C Review

Re:Google Pixel C Review by protomyth on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:40PM (#10970569)

In Apple's case some of the screaming stopped because people just decided to drop the product (e.g. Final Cut Pro X) and go with a competitor (e.g. Adobe Premiere Pro).

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by forrestthewoods on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:58PM (#10970668)

Apple doesn't support aspects of the product they don't want to support. Consumers get what they want from another business. That business gets, well, business. Sounds like win/win/win!

Sounds like a reasonable method to ensure you focus on the 5% that's most imortant. http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/05/evernotes-5-problem-offers...

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by overgard on Monday January 25, 2016 @06:57PM (#10970973)

Well it's easy to forget though, that Apple used to have a long running policy of not allowing any apps that compete with built in software. They've softened on that, but it's still often the case that third party software on Apple devices is very much second class citizens. I'm a relatively happy Apple user, but there's a lot of software they provide that is imo awful, but can't reasonably be substituted (I'm glaring at you, iTunes). So I don't think you can really argue what Apple does is a win for for customers.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by dilap on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @02:22AM (#10972281)

is there any platform reason itunes couldn't be replaced though? lots of people probably use e.g. spotify as their primary music provider.

(i guess itunes is privilaged if you're still syncing files back and forth from comp to phone, but who does that anymore?)

(itunes is terrible, by the way; very heartily agreed on that point.)

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by oneeyedpigeon on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @03:42AM (#10972449)

Us iPod users still (have to) do that. However bad iTunes may be, iTunes+iPod is still by far the best listening experience for many.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by dilap on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:17AM (#10978558)

good point, but i imagine ipod user's a rapidly diminishing pool.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by oneeyedpigeon on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @11:51AM (#10981092)

I don't know about "rapidly". From what I can tell, there is a committed bunch of us who will carry on as long as our devices continue to work. Just because they're no longer being sold, doesn't mean they don't continue to be used. The demand for a relatively cheap high-capacity portable music player hasn't just disappeared into thin air.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by carloscar on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @02:49AM (#10972350)

Siri support on iOS.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by dilap on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:18AM (#10978560)

great point. it's crazy/sad that siri can't integrate w/ 3rd party apps. it's also crazy how bad it still is ;) (which is why i don't use it)

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by smacktoward on Monday January 25, 2016 @08:05PM (#10971255)

> Sounds like win/win/win!

Except for the customers who bet their livelihood on you and now have to turn their entire workflow upside down to accommodate your lack of interest.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by s_kilk on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @08:16AM (#10973219)

Yep, a lot of businesses got burned very badly with Final Cut Pro X, and to a lesser extent Logic X.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by hobs on Monday January 25, 2016 @06:05PM (#10970693)

Apple being a bad actor for their customers is a win win win?

Any other company that we see remove features and not support the ones they created would get absolutely castigated, not referred to as a win/win/win.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by forrestthewoods on Monday January 25, 2016 @07:26PM (#10971094)

The bad actor is the company whose product grows too wide for them to support. Trimming back is a good actor.

Apple is a bad actor for letting iTunes become a bloated piece of shit. They'd be a good actor if they cut all the crap and released a new product, or products, with fewer features but more focus.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by sangnoir on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @07:46AM (#10973110)

> The bad actor is the company whose product grows too wide for them to support. Trimming back is a good actor

You're reframing the argument in an Apple-friendly way. Screaming isn't a sign of a win, it's a sign that Apple doesn't know what to trim ahead of time - that is in no way a win for the customer.

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Re:Google Pixel C Review by themodelplumber on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:56PM (#10970647)

Good point. It makes me wonder if someone near the top of the food chain at Apple was thinking "not really our focus right now anyway".

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