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Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by mentos on Thursday January 14, 2016 @11:25AM (#10902310)
"Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away"

I installed the new iTunes for my friends dad this weekend when I was helping him with his computer troubles. It took me way too long to find the file menu and it occurred to me in that moment that UI/UX designers have gone too far. In the pursuit of simplicity the marble nose has been chipped off the sculpture.

Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by wlesieutre on Thursday January 14, 2016 @11:47AM (#10902510)
"Let me push Alt just in case a secret UI shows up" is up there with XKCD's famous "change the screen resolution" troubleshooting strip [1]. It should not be a thing. But here we are.

And unfortunately, while the "change the screen resolution" is becoming less common, burying features in undiscoverable places is getting worse and worse.

What I hate the most about this is that (unlike aforementioned off-screen dialog bugs) designers/developers are doing it on purpose. Please stop! Other people have to use your software!

[1] http://www.xkcd.com/1479/

Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by Stratoscope on Thursday January 14, 2016 @01:09PM (#10903136)
In a funny coincidence, just a few minutes ago I got an email indicating that an off-screen dialog bug I reported on Windows 8 almost three years ago has been fixed. (Actually I think it was fixed early last year in a Windows Technical Preview build - two years after I reported it!)

I had my ThinkPad and an external monitor positioned like this, with their arrangement set in the Display control panel to match:

  +----------------+
  |                |
  |                |
  |    External    |
  |                | +--------------+
  |                | |              |
  +----------------+ |   ThinkPad   |
                     |              |
                     +--------------+
When Windows 8 introduced the new file copy/move/delete dialogs, it also introduced a bug. With this monitor arrangement, the dialog would be displayed offscreen:

  +----------------+
  |                |
  |                | [Dialog]
  |    External    |
  |                | +--------------+
  |                | |              |
  +----------------+ |   ThinkPad   |
                     |              |
                     +--------------+
Oops.

Just like in the XKCD, the modal dialog locked up the File Explorer window that had opened the dialog. After running into this many times I figured out a workaround using keyboard shortcuts to move the dialog back onscreen.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-f...

Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by TazeTSchnitzel on Thursday January 14, 2016 @01:40PM (#10903384)
Knowing about Alt+Spacebar has been invaluable.
Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by J_Darnley on Thursday January 14, 2016 @03:42PM (#10904314)
Can you summarize what that does for those of us who don't know?
Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by wlesieutre on Thursday January 14, 2016 @04:23PM (#10904595)
Pops up a menu in the corner of the active window with Restore, Move, Size, Minimize, Maximize, Close. If the window is off screen, the menu should pop up within screen bounds anyway.

Also accessible by right clicking a titlebar, for anybody who's familiar with that one.

Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by starshadowx2 on Thursday January 14, 2016 @12:29PM (#10902819)
I still use iTunes 10.7 because it was the last version before they (in my opinion) ruined the navigation and menus.
Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by mbcrower on Thursday January 14, 2016 @12:34PM (#10902855)
IMHO Apple's user interfaces have been getting less intuitive and more buggy with every release. I actually had to use Google to figure out how to disable shuffle on my iPhone.

Another annoyance with iTunes is that they removed the border. If it's placed over a white background, you can't tell where the iTunes window ends. Minimalism done right can be a beautiful thing. When it's done wrong (it's very difficult to get right), it's a disaster.

Re:The Navigation Bar Is an Affordance, Stop Removing It by digikata on Thursday January 14, 2016 @03:25PM (#10904179)
hiding != taking away

Or put longer: hiding functionality with out actually taking away the need to manually interact with the function is a superficial design utility improvement.