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Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by snksnk on Saturday December 26, 2015 @05:22PM (#10795505)
Agreed, OpenBSD is rock solid; it just works, with well thought out defaults and excellent drivers for devices that are supported. I only wish they would port hammer faster..
Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by na85 on Saturday December 26, 2015 @07:37PM (#10795883)
If only the performance was adequate. It was so laggy and power-hungry on my i7 thinkpad that I was forced to go back to Linux.
Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by morganvachon on Saturday December 26, 2015 @10:49PM (#10796328)
That's the only thing stopping me from running OpenBSD 24/7/365 on my workstation. It's getting marginally better with each release, but even on a system that screams under any other OS, OpenBSD just lags and lags, even with tweaks.

I've found a great use case for it though; older, slower hardware (think P4 and older) actually benefits from running OpenBSD versus most modern Linux distros. For example, I have an ancient PIII laptop that refuses to run anything other than OpenBSD, Slackware, and Haiku OS. Out of those, OpenBSD is the fastest and least buggy. Granted, it's just a toy/hobby device, but I found it intriguing nonetheless.

Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by zmyrgel on Sunday December 27, 2015 @07:48AM (#10797286)
Could you be more specific on what problems you have? Usually OpenBSD has been running quite smoothly. Only issues I've experienced have been on video use. Like I haven't been able to get smooth playback of HD material. And firefox seems to be bit choppy but that is probably my "gazillion tabs" I keep open.
Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by morganvachon on Monday December 28, 2015 @11:01AM (#10801704)
Those are some of the issues I've experienced, even with SD video and only a few tabs open in Firefox.

There's also a general choppiness to X itself. All of this with accelerated Intel graphics, so it's not necessarily driver related. I just figure that given the project's focus on security and clean code, desktop OS performance takes a necessary back seat.

Even with all of that, I give every new release a thorough test run on my old workstation and laptop, just to see if things have improved in that area. And they have been steadily improving!

Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by na85 on Sunday December 27, 2015 @10:25AM (#10797653)
Multiple-second system freezes when opening programs or changing workspaces, etc.

It's just laggy and runs hotter than Linux. I get a solid hour and a half more battery life on Linux too.

Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by zmyrgel on Sunday December 27, 2015 @12:19PM (#10798036)
When did you try it? They fixed ACPI power management issue in 5.8. So if you tried it before that it might explain the battery life issue. I haven't seen any multiple-second system freezes ever. Did you report those issues in bug tracker or mailing lists?
Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by na85 on Sunday December 27, 2015 @10:16PM (#10799673)
5.8 was what I tried and the new acpi did not help.

Obviously I reported it.

Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by geggam on Saturday December 26, 2015 @10:58PM (#10796342)
using minecraft as an example...

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/fujitsu-lifebook-s7...

The above ~5yr old laptop will give 60fps running minecraft with no hiccups / glitches. Installed an SSD and frankly its a perfect workstation for anything I would use and I see no lag.

Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by floatboth on Sunday December 27, 2015 @06:37AM (#10797153)
It shouldn't be power-hungry... A lot of OpenBSD developers use OpenBSD on their ThinkPads. It should work fine. Maybe you haven't configured power management.

In FreeBSD, it's powerd. In OpenBSD... apmd?

Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by na85 on Sunday December 27, 2015 @10:24AM (#10797649)
You're telling me what it shouldn't be or should be, but I am telling you what it is.

You are free to search marc.info for the fruitless threads of me trying to solve multi-second system freezes when opening emacs or changing workspaces if you like.

The fact that the devs dogfood their stuff is irrelevant: it doesn't perform even remotely as well as Linux on the same (modern) hardware.

Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by zmyrgel on Sunday December 27, 2015 @07:44AM (#10797274)
In OpenBSD you can let the kernel do the power management with "sysctl hw.perfpolicy=auto".

Also there was fix in ACPI in 5.8 to fix power use in newer processors. If I remember it correctly the processor didn't use the deep sleep states so they consumed more power.

Re:OpenBSD Jumpstart: Learn to Tame OpenBSD Quickly by Timethy on Sunday December 27, 2015 @06:52AM (#10797182)
Where do you experience this lag? Graphics? Disk? Io?

Openbsd has always felt turbo fast to me. Easily the tightest Unix experience, in my experience.