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Re:Brazilian Judge Shuts Down WhatsApp for 48 Hours by morgante on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @11:35PM (#10749563)
> some criminals

You mean suspected criminals, right?

It still seems pretty reactionary. The solution isn't to block an entire service.

Re:Brazilian Judge Shuts Down WhatsApp for 48 Hours by pinkrooftop on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @11:40PM (#10749579)
Better an entire nation go without WhatsApp than one guilty man go free /s
Re:Brazilian Judge Shuts Down WhatsApp for 48 Hours by lagadu on Thursday December 17, 2015 @06:02AM (#10750739)
> It still seems pretty reactionary. The solution isn't to block an entire service.

Why not? If they're not complying with court mandated orders, then the court is empowered to enact any legal (in Brasil) measures to coerce cooperation out of the offender. If whatsapp wants to operate there they have to follow the law; they stopped following the law, they're no longer welcome.

Re:Brazilian Judge Shuts Down WhatsApp for 48 Hours by scrupulusalbion on Thursday December 17, 2015 @12:07PM (#10752658)
Perhaps I am overstepping my bounds, but to me it seems that using coercion to get information from a witness (Whatsapp appears to be in the position of a witness) is a recipe for getting unreliable information when the witness.

Whatsapp seems to be in a position that it could retaliate against this Brazilian judge by giving false testimony. Afterall, Whatsapp and the parties to the messages are probably the only people who know what was said in those messages; Whatsapp could modify the messages such that they exonerate the accused. If the judge has played his only trump card by blocking usage of Whatsapp in Brazil, then Whatsapp knows the absolute worst that can happen by lying about what was said in the messages. Worse, the Judge may not even be able to prove what the messages actually contained.

Re:Brazilian Judge Shuts Down WhatsApp for 48 Hours by ossreality on Wednesday December 16, 2015 @11:38PM (#10749575)
>The solution isn't to block an entire service.

Oh really? What else are you supposed to do when a startup flush with cash decides to ignore the laws of your nation, exactly?

Re:Brazilian Judge Shuts Down WhatsApp for 48 Hours by leshow on Thursday December 17, 2015 @09:53AM (#10751760)
What a ridiculous thing to say. Firstly, the amount of cash the company has is irrelevant. Secondly, it was mentioned elsewhere in this thread, if WhatsApp has no presence in Brazil (i.e. no physical offices, the service is just 'offered' there because it is on Google Play/App Store) then why should they have to comply with local laws in a foreign country?

If my website gets ruled to turn over logs by some local jurisdiction in Brazil. Why should I feel compelled to comply? I am not Brazilian and I have no Brazilian business presence. It's the Internet... to be policed by every local jurisdiction in the world is ridiculous.