Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by necessity on Sunday December 13, 2015 @07:00PM
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Ponzi schemes and magical remedies promise you something in exchange for your money and do not deliver. If they were advertising a game in which for $x you get A and B and you don't in fact get it, then yeah, intervention is required. That is not what the article is supporting, though.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by vezzy-fnord on Sunday December 13, 2015 @07:04PM
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There's plenty of legal Ponzi and pyramid schemes out there right now. Amway and plenty of other multi-level marketing enterprises, for instance. As long as you're (sort of) honest about it, it isn't even fraudulent to run one.
"Magical remedies". I assume you mean alternative medicine. Does this mean you're going to ban various herbs, or what?
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by lemming on Sunday December 13, 2015 @07:11PM
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I would be in favour of anyone selling homeopathic "remedies" being banned from calling themselves a health professional.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by wyldfire on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:57PM
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I don't think this relates back to the topic at hand, though. Disqualifying these games as "games" probably wouldn't have much if any impact.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by lemming on Tuesday December 15, 2015 @03:57PM
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It was in response to the parent question about what to do about alternative remedies.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by fbbbbb on Sunday December 13, 2015 @08:12PM
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You base your argument on authority. If an actual health professional sells homeopathic remedies, then according to your argument, they are allowed to.
A product should be legal, if it really does what is it advertised to do. How is this validated? That is up to the lawmakers, as long as someone handles it, unlike now.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by morgante on Sunday December 13, 2015 @07:12PM
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There's a massive difference between fraud (promising impossible returns or cures) and advertising.
Game makers aim to addict you, but they don't lie and they do give you exactly what they say they will.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by npunt on Sunday December 13, 2015 @07:43PM
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What part of making a fraudulent Facebook account and friending users to get their information isn't fraud?
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by morgante on Sunday December 13, 2015 @07:54PM
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That's hearsay and I highly doubt it happens on an institutional scale.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by themartorana on Sunday December 13, 2015 @08:01PM
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Yeah, this seemed like a clear line if ever one was needed. My company builds F2P games that are ad supported, but my god that is some disgusting crap right there.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by TeMPOraL on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:34PM
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I'd say it's a difference of degree, not of kind. Generally, fraud is a deliberate deception to secure an unfair gain. Advertising is this too, but usually it's harmless enough that we don't mind. Sometimes though it crosses the line.
As the quote goes, "Any sufficiently advanced business model is indistinguishable from a scam." (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8227941)
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by morgante on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:52PM
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Perhaps, but if we're going to go that far we should also start regulating fashion to protect whales from themselves. It also depends immensely on a small number of people being manipulated through advertising to buy a lot.
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by jabgrabdthrow on Sunday December 13, 2015 @07:01PM
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Those are fraud, not just "manipulation".
Re:Hi, I’m from the games industry. Governments, please stop us
by CyberDildonics on Sunday December 13, 2015 @07:34PM
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When the game is released I think there would be a better case for 'not fraud'.
So if people are interested in Ponzi schemes or magical remedies, the state should not interfere, right?