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Re:Towns want Verizon investigated for abandoning networks t... by ceejayoz on Friday December 04, 2015 @11:22AM (#10677184)
> While Government-led solutions often seem superior in theory, they rarely work out that way in real life.

Same for free-market solutions, especially in an industry with enormous barriers to entry like the telecom world.

> There is no reason to pay $1,500 for an MRI when there is another place across town willing to do it for $500.

Good luck getting a quote for a medical procedure in the US. Hospitals frequently can't tell if you if insurance will even cover a surgical procedure until the day before, let alone what the price will be (and said price will vary from insurance company to insurance company, and patient to patient).

The place across town might have shitty radiologists, too. A patient is unlikely to have any access to evaluate that aspect.

Re:Towns want Verizon investigated for abandoning networks t... by logfromblammo on Friday December 04, 2015 @12:45PM (#10677774)
The prices for medical procedures in the U.S. are fixed at the well-known, stable amount of whatever the provider thinks it can pry out of you and your insurer.

If you go to a mechanic, and get a quote for your auto repair, in most cases that quote is the maximum amount you can be required to pay. To charge more, or to add on services you did not request, would trigger consumer protection laws against deceptive business practices.

If you go to a physician's practice, and get a quote for your human repair, first off, congratulations are in order for getting any number at all prior to service. But unfortunately, that number that you got is pure coprographitto, and it won't be the upper limit on what you pay.

It's much like those e-commerce deals where you can't see the sale price of an item until you add it to your shopping cart. Except in this case, you don't see the price under after you buy the item. And the sale price has a negative discount, meaning you actually paid more for it. You can't meaningfully comparison shop under those conditions.

This is why those high-deductible plus healthcare savings account plans intended to spur comparison shopping cause people to simply forego treatment altogether instead. The only price people can really be sure of is that not going to the doctor at all costs $0 now out of pocket. Going to any doctor can range from "I can actually afford this," to "healthy and bankrupt beats rich and dead, I guess."

Re:Towns want Verizon investigated for abandoning networks t... by LeifCarrotson on Friday December 04, 2015 @02:43PM (#10678590)
With the individual mandate described by Obamacare, the price of not going to the doctor at all is $695 for each adult, plus $347.50 for each child, plus 2.5% of after-tax income.
Re:Towns want Verizon investigated for abandoning networks t... by ceejayoz on Friday December 04, 2015 @02:57PM (#10678706)
Wrong in a couple ways.

First, it's the higher of the per-person fee of $695/adult, $347.50/child, to a maximum of $2,085 or 2.5% of income up to the average annual price of a bronze plan on the exchange ($2,448 in 2014). Not "plus", and there are sensible caps.

https://www.healthcare.gov/fees/fee-for-not-being-covered/

Second, that's the price of not having insurance. You can have insurance and not see a doctor (and this is a fairly common choice for folks with a sky-high deductible).