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Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by DanBC on Saturday November 28, 2015 @12:56PM (#10641779)
> I'd argue the "phonetically broken" nature of English has more to do with his learning it as a second language than anything intrinsically wrong with English.

ough:

Bough (ow), Though (oh), through (oo), thorough (uh), rough (uff), cough (off), hiccough (up)

That's broken.

Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by vorg on Saturday November 28, 2015 @07:21PM (#10643151)
"Hiccough" is spelt "hiccup" by nearly everyone nowadays. In comic books, "though" is often spelt "tho", and "through" spelt "thru". The US and UK should get together and create a small language spelling reform group to suggest more such changes to the 20% of words that cause 80% of the problems, e.g. changing "thorough" to "thuruh", "rough" to "ruff", and "cough" to "coff".
Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by ams6110 on Saturday November 28, 2015 @07:41PM (#10643210)
It's happening by default anyway. Schools now encourage "inventive spelling" rather than correct spelling, so you have kids in 8th grade who can't spell basic words correctly but rather they write them how they sound.
Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by kibwen on Saturday November 28, 2015 @11:09PM (#10643674)
For a historical anecdote, this sort of simplified phonetic spelling was championed in the early 1900s by Andrew Carnegie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Spelling_Board
Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by DanBC on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:44AM (#10644404)
Moon Joon? bedrum?
Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by stevekemp on Saturday November 28, 2015 @01:45PM (#10641923)
And don't forget words that are pronounced differently with identical spelling, for added hilarity:

* Polish people live in Poland.

* Polish your boots.

Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by tricolon on Saturday November 28, 2015 @01:53PM (#10641950)
Obligatory link to Nolst Trenité's "The Chaos": http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html
Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by stevekemp on Saturday November 28, 2015 @02:57PM (#10642165)
New to me, thanks for sharing.

Some great examples there, such as "minute" and "minute". heh.

Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by leoc on Saturday November 28, 2015 @09:48PM (#10643520)
'Feoffer' is probably the worst word there. But just maybe the worst snare in English is 'positive' — the other 'positive' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_organ . Yes it's obviously some kind of loan-word, but then so are most English words...
Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by ziotom78 on Saturday November 28, 2015 @05:32PM (#10642775)
Another example:

* I read this book whenever I feel lonely.

* I read this book many years ago

A friend of mine coming from Scotland once told me that he phoned Twinings (the English tea maker) in order to understand how to pronounce it ("twain..." or "twin...").

Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by Al-Khwarizmi on Saturday November 28, 2015 @06:40PM (#10643025)
So, don't make us go to sleep without knowing how to actually pronounce Twinings! I have no idea and now want to know.
Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by vacri on Saturday November 28, 2015 @06:52PM (#10643062)
Twine-ings. As in twine/string. Rhymes with wine. The 'ings' is pretty standard, like in 'things'.

Twinings is a name, though - and all bets are off when it comes to name pronunciation.

Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by pandler on Saturday November 28, 2015 @06:32PM (#10642999)
"Polish Remover"

A bottle of solvent or leader of the Nazi party?

Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by lottin on Saturday November 28, 2015 @01:48PM (#10641936)
That's just etymological spelling reflecting an old pronunciation. Whether such spelling is "broken" is purely a matter of opinion.
Re:English has been my pain for 15 years (2013) by mkehrt on Saturday November 28, 2015 @02:33PM (#10642076)
There's no phonetics there; just orthography.