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Re:Introducing the new Google+ by vijayr on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @05:25PM (#10584444)
Pinterest crowd, the sort of people who read Cosmopolitan, watch reality shows

That crowd is way bigger than the crowd that hangs out at places like HN. So it would make sense for G+ to go after them, no? This is a numbers game.

Re:Introducing the new Google+ by izacus on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @06:00PM (#10584643)
That crowd is already camping out on Facebook, while G+ was being adopted by more techy people.

Companies running for the same average Joe and forgetting about other groups of people leads to quick deaths of services.

Re:Introducing the new Google+ by drumdance on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @06:24PM (#10584769)
I've always thought Google should buy Github and make that the basis for a new G+. It's too late now but a few years ago who knows.
Re:Introducing the new Google+ by andrepd on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @05:36PM (#10584510)
Sadly yes. Doesn't mean I can't feel sad that is the case, though.
Re:Introducing the new Google+ by ajmurmann on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @08:46PM (#10585380)
I don't think it's either or. I obviously read hacker news, but I'm also very passionate about ceramics especially Japanese and Korean ceramics and Pinterest is a treasure trove for images of work other people have done as well as new techniques. For contrast: I don't have a Facebook account.
Re:Introducing the new Google+ by dredmorbius on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @12:44AM (#10586158)
Google have been tremendously coy about what their success metrics for G+ are, though they've played highly disengenuous all-but-utterly-fake numbers games in playing up "engagement" since the very beginning.

I'd argue that the issue isn't numbers, but relevance. G+ is lousy in many ways but has a few small areas of success, notably its Notifications mechanic, a community which, for me, works fairly well, and a search which while pathetically under-featured is comprehensive and fast.

Winning the numbers game for social vs. Facebook in its current incarnation is a fool's errand. Numerous people have pointed this out, including ex-Googlers pointing at the "Interest Graph" (though suggestions for following / pursuing this date to the first few months of G+).

If Google does grab the Cosmo crowd, that's fine, so long as it doesn't also chase off the Nature/PLOS crowd in the process. Unfortunately, Google's proven more than happy to sling absolute snot (as in the G+ "What Snot" feature ... oh, no, that's "What's Hot").

Power users learn how to disable that instantly.